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Strongest ever GT team?

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Carl0880 said:
Are you talking about team results or pure team strength. Result wise, by far would have to be those Le Vie Claire teams of the mid 80s. Heck, you know a team is strong when the only entertaining part of the final results are watching a pair of teammates attacking each other for the TDF. (Oh wait, Hinault was just helping out Lemond, I forgot). Nowadays, it seems teams will have 3 riders ride the best results possible when team duties are done (This is for the Team Classification results), then have everyone lay off to conserve energy.

Its outside of the box, and it was back when the races concentrated on local nationalities, but the Early 90s Amaya Seguros teams would usually field 4-6 riders in the Top 15 of the Vuelta with climbers like Jesus Montoya, Fabio Parra, Cubino, Melchor Mauri, and I believe for a year or 2 Mikel Zarrabeitia.

For the Giro in the time period, if I recall right didnt Carrera have a team for the Giro including Roche, Claudio Chiapucci (Sp) and Pantani
Those 3 didn't ride the Giro together. 1993 Chiapucci-Roche and 1994 Chiapucci-Pantani. 1987 Carrera was probably better. Close to La Vie Claire 1986.
 
Saeco at the 2004 Giro d'Italia. Cunego and Simoni with Mazzoleni, Szmyd, Tonti Bertagnolli, Stangelj Spezialetti and Fornaciari as domestiques.

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A shout-out should also go to the 1984 Renault-Elf squad. Their final placings on GC weren't as strong as La Vie Claire '86, but between them they came away from the Tour with

1st place and 5 stage wins (Fignon)
3rd place and Best Young Rider (Lemond)
The Team Time Trial
Four individual stage wins not by Fignon (Madiot, Jules, Poisson, Menthéour)
19 stages in yellow (between Fignon and Barteau)

And, of course, #2 on the GC (Hinault) had been the team's leader just the year before.
 
Astana 2009 would have been insanely strong if it was a team, as it was Contador was so betrayed that Schleck probably had more support in the form of his brother than Contador did. However it had riders who could control/pace the peloton on the flat, riders to pace on hills or early mountains of stages before the action really start, climbers to blow the race apart and the best GC rider of the race.

Liquigas Giro 2010 dominated the race although objectively they probably were not super strong. Basso, Nibali, Szymd, Kiserlovski, Angoli and the rest all worked very well together.
 
I'll play the seniority card :D .

Molteni '71? I was too young (so much for the seniority card :p ) but the lineup is insane.

USPS, as a cohesive unit (better than the sum of its parts) is a candidate.

GB with Berzin, Ugrumov, the '94 squad is worth a mention.

Sky? Well, they made Wiggins win a TdF. Impressive.

La Vie Claire '86, to me is all of the above. Great lineup, cohesive (to an extend :rolleyes: ), so dominating. It was fun to watch, well, not so fun: you knew the outcome (to an extend :rolleyes: ).
 
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3 pages and no one crying BANESTO?? i mean early 90s banesto was incredible. 5 tours, 2 giri...still today Unzue is on of the best DS.
the way banesto riders dedicated evrything to their captain was new in cycling. banesto was the draft for ater USPS successes
 
With Henao back and Landa available and with Froome, Thomas & Poels ...not to mention a very strong climbing Nieve ...I have to say I am getting a bit carried away with how strong SKY are...Maybe too strong...And we haven't even included Kiryenkia, Inxtausti , Roche, Rowe, Konig,Puccio & Stannard

Of course everyone would need to turn up in top form...not sure who they will select
 
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HelloDolly said:
With Henao back and Landa available and with Froome, Thomas & Poels ...not to mention a very strong climbing Nieve ...I have to say I am getting a bit carried away with how strong SKY are...Maybe too strong...And we haven't even included Kiryenkia, Inxtausti , Roche, Rowe, Konig,Puccio & Stannard

Of course everyone would need to turn up in top form...not sure who they will select

And it's all of limited use if Contador is on Froome's wheel, perhaps unless they actually send people up the road like every other big GT team seems able to.
 
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malakassis said:
3 pages and no one crying BANESTO?? i mean early 90s banesto was incredible. 5 tours, 2 giri...still today Unzue is on of the best DS.
the way banesto riders dedicated evrything to their captain was new in cycling. banesto was the draft for ater USPS successes
Yeah, I'm sure Prudencio Indurain was taken to the Giro and the Tour because he was one of the best domestiques around and not just because he happened to be Big Mig's brother.
 
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GuyIncognito said:
Can't think of any that come even remotely close to Molteni 1971

Merckx - greatest rider ever
van Springel - 2nd in the Giro, Tour and Worlds. Monument winner.
Wagtmans - Top 5 in the Tour
Van Schil - repeated podiums in monuments
Stevens - winner of essentially everything on the track. worlds podium and multi stage wins in grand tours, in the few occasions where he wasn't keeping Merckx out of the wind
Basso - one of the greatest sprinters ever. world champion. many GT stage wins
Spruyt - domestique. Tour stage winner
Huismans - Tour top 10, classics winner
Swerts - GT top 10s, worlds medal, classics winner, one of the greatest time trialists ever
Bruyére - monument winner, tour top 5. could've been a huge star in his own right if he wasn't constantly working for merckx

(10 riders per team back then)

Incredible team. Very hard to top that team.
 
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once in 1995 were frightening: jalabert, zülle, mauri, bruyneel, breukink, stephens, mariano rojas, herminio diaz zabala, luis diaz otazu.

only luis diaz otazu was terrible and already out of time after the ttt, imagine if they had selection oliverio rincon instead of him...
 

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