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Which team will the winner of Paris Roubaix be on?

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theswordsman

theswordsman

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Susan Westemeyer said:
By the way, we are doing start-to-finish live coverage on the race. I'll be starting things off at about 10:15 CET.

Susan
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Hi Susan. I've sent tweets and an e-mail about it already, but I don't know who will see it first, so I'll repeat it here. The article about the Podium Contest prizes has a link leading people directly to the old Flanders thread. Newbies are registering, clicking the link, and leaving predictions there even though the contest isn't meant to have started yet. Good luck with it all.
 
auscyclefan94

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I personally see that it is going to be hard for Cancellara to get away from Boonen on the cobbled sections of Roubaix because in Flanders the hilly cobbled sections are much more descisive. In roubaix the cobbles are flat so it is just a flat and hard, tough slog. If Saxo want to win they need to send one of the fab 3 (Breschel, Cancellara, O'Grady) up the road on a cobbled sector like Orchies because if they are going to ride away from TB they need to isolate and attack him early as possible. That's just my take.
 
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AntonioRossi

Nov 14, 2009
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can someone quote these predictions for me? i live on west coast and waking up that early will not work for me :p haha
Thanks!

1. George Hincapie
2. Juan Antonio Flecha
3. Peter Sagan
 
python

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cyclingfans says the feeds will start at 3:20 CET.


unfortunately, i will be able to catch only an hour.
 
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karlboss

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auscyclefan94 said:
I personally see that it is going to be hard for Cancellara to get away from Boonen on the cobbled sections of Roubaix because in Flanders the hilly cobbled sections are much more descisive. In roubaix the cobbles are flat so it is just a flat and hard, tough slog. If Saxo want to win they need to send one of the fab 3 (Breschel, Cancellara, Boonen) up the road on a cobbled sector like Orchies because if they are going to ride away from TB they need to isolate and attack him early as possible. That's just my take.
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why are saxo sending boonen up the road?
 
Timmy-loves-Rabo

Timmy-loves-Rabo

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auscyclefan94 said:
I personally see that it is going to be hard for Cancellara to get away from Boonen on the cobbled sections of Roubaix because in Flanders the hilly cobbled sections are much more descisive. In roubaix the cobbles are flat so it is just a flat and hard, tough slog. If Saxo want to win they need to send one of the fab 3 (Breschel, Cancellara, Boonen) up the road on a cobbled sector like Orchies because if they are going to ride away from TB they need to isolate and attack him early as possible. That's just my take.
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i get it, to beat boonen saxo have to send boonen up the road. ;)

anyway i disagree, spartacus is the kinda rider who can ride away on a flat stage, especially in a small select group at the end. Not to mention this is P-R.

And seriously have you ever watched P-R??? This is no normal flat race, these cobbles are hell, and riders who are strong on the day do often just ride away. NO WAY are the climbs at Flanders more decisive, you are ignorant you believe this. Flanders might have some really tough climbs, but they have less cobbles, and the cobbles at flanders are like a massage compared to the one they ride in P-R. If flanders is more decisive I wonder why usually a pretty decent size group comes in after the front few guys, while P-R the riders come in clusters the whole way down, the field is literally destroyed in P-R.

That being said I dunno which race is harder (after all 16(?) climbs, many of which are full of cobbles are pretty tough), but suggesting the cobbles at P-R are a simple hard slog and less decisive then flanders is wrong. IMP P-R would be harder tho.

did some research and found a CH quote that sums it up for me:

"Let me tell you, though - there's a huge difference between Flanders and Paris-Roubaix. They're not even close to the same. In one, the cobbles are used every day by the cars, and kept up, and stuff like that. The other one - it's completely different ... The best I could do would be to describe it like this - they plowed a dirt road, flew over it with a helicopter, and then just dropped a bunch of rocks out of the helicopter! That's Paris-Roubaix. It's that bad - it's ridiculous."
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Cerberus

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Timmy-loves-Rabo said:
did some research and found a CH quote that sums it up for me:

"Let me tell you, though - there's a huge difference between Flanders and Paris-Roubaix. They're not even close to the same. In one, the cobbles are used every day by the cars, and kept up, and stuff like that. The other one - it's completely different ... The best I could do would be to describe it like this - they plowed a dirt road, flew over it with a helicopter, and then just dropped a bunch of rocks out of the helicopter! That's Paris-Roubaix. It's that bad - it's ridiculous."
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The difference can't be that big. I'm not speaking from experience or anything since I only started following cobbled races this year, but the favourites are the exact same people in almost the exact same order. That says to me that the races have a lot in common.
 
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theyoungest

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Cerberus said:
The difference can't be that big. I'm not speaking from experience or anything since I only started following cobbled races this year, but the favourites are the exact same people in almost the exact same order. That says to me that the races have a lot in common.
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There is a reason riders like Gilbert or Nuyens don't do Paris-Roubaix. They have to make the difference on the hills. I don't think Gilbert could ever win PR, but Flanders is certainly a possibility.
 
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Cerberus

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theyoungest said:
There is a reason riders like Gilbert or Nuyens don't do Paris-Roubaix. They have to make the difference on the hills. I don't think Gilbert could ever win PR, but Flanders is certainly a possibility.
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I can't check this since he's as you point out, not racing, but IIRC the bookmakers ranked Gilbert about the same for both races. I'm not saying there's no difference of cause, just that it's apparently not very large.
 
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issoisso

Mar 18, 2009
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theyoungest said:
There is a reason riders like Gilbert or Nuyens don't do Paris-Roubaix. They have to make the difference on the hills. I don't think Gilbert could ever win PR, but Flanders is certainly a possibility.
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This is very correct. You have to have power on the flats. The same thing happens with Breschel, to a smaller extent.
 
Dekker_Tifosi

Dekker_Tifosi

Mar 13, 2009
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Some people still have to learn a lot, yes the favorites are the same, but the race is different, Paris Roubaix has much harder cobble sections, and there is no downhill to return in.. thus the field gets ripped apart much more than Flanders

Just check previous results. It's that easy, the differences in time are much much bigger
 
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Mellow Velo

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I take it you that some people think that pave has to go uphill, in order to create breaks?

What wind there is, is a headwind for most part, but will be a crosswind at times, towards the back end of the race.

Drinking ban on the carrefour de l'arbre !
Most of us know how big the splits will be on there.;)
 
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