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Sylvia Schenk says 500,000 $

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tubularglue said:
be nice to save before it disappears.
I did. I got the info from Cyclingfansanonymous. Her blog is still a great place for info.

All this makes you wonder just how big of a cash cow Armstrong was for the gutter twins Hein and Paddy.
 
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Julien Devries:

• Three-time Tour winner Greg Lemond, now a bitter enemy of Armstrong's, testified that he had a 2000 conversation with former U.S. Postal mechanic Julian DeVries, who told him about a three-week training camp in the Pyrenees where "the moment the riders were off their bikes they were on IVs," experimenting with a drug that is undetectable and out of their system in 48 hours.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/more/06/16/lance/
 
tubularglue said:
http://velonews.competitor.com/2005...t-blasts-ucis-handling-of-armstrong-case_8889

what is the figure, why would sylvia admit to 500,000 compared to Pats 100,000

http://www.google.com/search?q=sylv...s=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a


that is 5 times the ammount reported today

"to my knoweldge 500,000 dollars"

Life is going pretty well for you if you can't remember whether you donated $25,000, $100,000 or $500,000 to a 'charity' of your choice.

Anyone else get the feeling that Lance Armstrong will one day be described as "the luckiest man in the world, right up until he wasn't"?
 
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I love how you guys are using her statement of $500k as support that Landis' accusation is true, and ignoring that fact that she has also stated that it's basically impossible that a positive test would be covered up!

"I do not think that a positive doping test can be easily covered up, especially in the case of such a famous rider like Armstrong," Schenk told Cyclingnews on Tuesday. "The tests are performed in accredited labs; it would be difficult to bury a positive result as there are too many people involved. But not only that: I also doubt that the UCI would do such a thing."
 
stephens said:
I love how you guys are using her statement of $500k as support that Landis' accusation is true, and ignoring that fact that she has also stated that it's basically impossible that a positive test would be covered up!

"I do not think that a positive doping test can be easily covered up, especially in the case of such a famous rider like Armstrong," Schenk told Cyclingnews on Tuesday. "The tests are performed in accredited labs; it would be difficult to bury a positive result as there are too many people involved. But not only that: I also doubt that the UCI would do such a thing."

I don't know about you, but in my vocabulary there's a huuuuuuge difference between "basically impossible" and "not easily"... "Not easily" means that it could be done with effort... Being head of UCI and a high-ranking member of IOC would help. And it's not like IOC itself is known as a very clean organisation in the first place, is it? How many Olympic host towns have won the honour without bribes? Which is another example of the difference of "not easy" and "practically impossible"...

Anyway; what I don't understand is: Why would LA not have paid up his bribe straight away, instead "forgetting about it" until he's sent a "reminder"??? If I was bribing someone to keep my dark secrets secret, I would make sure to make payment good asap.

My only guesses on that for the moment are:

1) The bribe was intended to be a proper bribe and actually kept secret until some idiot starting mentioning "donations", which then had to be entered into the books somewhere, sometime

2) There is more than one bribe, either signifying a much higher total amount through many payments all the way from the beginning or that there are more than one positive test to cover up

3) Finally, but very unlikely in my mind, it is actually just a donation

By the way... Regarding the Lemond bit from the SCA case. If the mechanic told that to Lemond in 2000, this would put that incident before the Tour de Suisse. Either he's bribing people before he dopes and tests positive or he led a very sloppy doping life... Or something completely third...
 
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stephens said:
I love how you guys are using her statement of $500k as support that Landis' accusation is true, and ignoring that fact that she has also stated that it's basically impossible that a positive test would be covered up!

"I do not think that a positive doping test can be easily covered up, especially in the case of such a famous rider like Armstrong," Schenk told Cyclingnews on Tuesday. "The tests are performed in accredited labs; it would be difficult to bury a positive result as there are too many people involved. But not only that: I also doubt that the UCI would do such a thing."
This is basically trolling in my opinion. No-one seriously interested in an intelligent debate on a topic would try to equate "impossible" with "not..easily". This suggests that you are being deliberately mischeivious. Either that you are non-English speaking and can be excused.
 
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rata de sentina said:
This is basically trolling in my opinion. No-one seriously interested in an intelligent debate on a topic would try to equate "impossible" with "not..easily". This suggests that you are being deliberately mischeivious. Either that you are non-English speaking and can be excused.

She indeed says not easily that's certainly not the same as impossible, and 500 K is a big lot of money, you can pay a big lot of people with it... :p
 
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Irish2009 said:
$100,000 to UCI coffers
$200,000 to Mr Verbruggen
$200,000 to Mr McQuaid

Simple,

oor 100,000 to UCI
200,000 to test lab and associates==> most money to them becaus he's got to bribe a lot of them !
100,000 to Verbruggen
100,000 to McQuaid? :p
 
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from the CN article:

but embarrassingly admitted that despite promising the $100,000 in April of 2002, Armstrong only paid up in 2005 after the UCI sent him a reminder of payment.

So Mr Armstrong was trying to get away from his promised payment?
 
olimpic said:
from the CN article:



So Mr Armstrong was trying to get away from his promised payment?


And would the UCI really send a reminder for a gift? That's a bit rude, isn't it?! Especially 4 years after the promise.

Or could Pat be explaining away an email that might be found on the UCI's system...
 
Michielveedeebee said:
oor 100,000 to UCI
200,000 to test lab and associates==> most money to them becaus he's got to bribe a lot of them !
100,000 to Verbruggen
100,000 to McQuaid? :p

I think Hein needs to go in there twice. After all he had to be bribed in both his capacities: UCI and ICO...
 

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If I gave the UCI $500,000 I would be very upset if they busted me for anyting!! lol.. this is just completely insane, how on earth does Lance have so many supporters???

You think Valverde wouldn't stump up with $500K if the UCI would lets things slide? or Jan or Floyd or Vino??? $100K or even $500 is peanuts.
 

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tubularglue said:
Julien Devries:

• Three-time Tour winner Greg Lemond, now a bitter enemy of Armstrong's, testified that he had a 2000 conversation with former U.S. Postal mechanic Julian DeVries, who told him about a three-week training camp in the Pyrenees where "the moment the riders were off their bikes they were on IVs," experimenting with a drug that is undetectable and out of their system in 48 hours.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/more/06/16/lance/

Its called saline solution:p
 
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SpartacusRox said:
Its called saline solution:p

If you are dehydrated or sick you might go on a glucose drip.

Saline is to bring down HcT if you know you're about to be tested.

The idea that they would need either of these after a routine training spin is daft.

It was clearly something unethical and illegal.
 
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olimpic said:
from the CN article:



So Mr Armstrong was trying to get away from his promised payment?
this was during the SCA case. StrongArm had to front up with the $$$.

Tight@rse StrongArm
 
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I have a question - I've read that at the SCA trial Armstrong said the donation was only $25,000, if the donation is shown to have been i) larger and ii) at a different date, does this mean the Uniballer is open to charges of perjury - and would SCA be likely to reclaim their money on these grounds?
 
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StrongArm is gonna have to pay a load more than the 7.5 mill.

He will have to pay back the 7.5 mill, plus lawyers costs, plus then there will be damages also. Might be selling his chateau in Vail.
 
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blackcat said:
StrongArm is gonna have to pay a load more than the 7.5 mill.

He will have to pay back the 7.5 mill, plus lawyers costs, plus then there will be damages also. Might be selling his chateau in Vail.
will he also be selling off his memorabilia and if so, does he have a picture with Elvis?

I call dibbs on the phone he used to speak to G.W. Bush after the podium ceremony of the TDF.
 
from December 2008: - "we like our credibility"

Do you believe that Floyd Landis doped?
No. I think in a normal American court of law, he’s not guilty. Those arbitrations with USADA and CAS are tough. The arbitrators are in the business of arbitrating in favour of the anti-doping agencies. If I was a juror, I don’t think there was guilt beyond reasonable doubt.

Why have so many ex-US Postal riders tested positive or admitted doping retrospectively?
I don't know. We’re not in charge of them when they leave. They never tested positive under our guidance.

People say they weren’t caught because your methods of covering up were better.
No. That’s not true. We had a lot of good riders. We had a great team, great directors. Simply not true.

2000 is a compelling case, when we had the French investigation. The only conclusion they could draw was that the samples were too clean. Too clean.

What do you want me to say? My record stands.

What’s your relationship with Hein Verbruggen?
It’s a good relationship. I haven’t talked to or seen him in years.

You made a gift to the UCI back in the early 2000s to buy anti-doping equipment. How much was it?
Er…Well, I can get you an exact number. Around 25,000 dollars. This was a long time ago.

Was the payment to Verbruggen or the UCI?
The UCI. I made it in the interests of it helping. The UCI is not a wealthy organisation.

Did you consider it a potential conflict of interest?
I didn’t. And if it was, we wouldn’t have done it.

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest/345599/lance-armstrong-exclusive-interview.html