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Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

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I have been following msr for more than a decade now, and I remember watching sagan trying and fail to win this race being the favourite almost every year. The reason why sagan never won and vdp has won twice is pogacar, I believe nobody could argue with that. If vdp had the entire peloton looking at him (like sagan had) he could not win msr, simply because if he had to initiate an attack on poggio himself (with everybody on his wheel and not after pog has attacked) he could not drop everybody, the group contesting the win would be inevitably be much larger and the likes of matthews, philipsen, even kooij in the near future would beat him. The only way in which he could win would be with an attack like stuyven but being the favourite he would be too marked for that
 
I have been following msr for more than a decade now, and I remember watching sagan trying and fail to win this race being the favourite almost every year. The reason why sagan never won and vdp has won twice is pogacar, I believe nobody could argue with that. If vdp had the entire peloton looking at him (like sagan had) he could not win msr, simply because if he had to initiate an attack on poggio himself (with everybody on his wheel and not after pog has attacked) he could not drop everybody, the group contesting the win would be inevitably be much larger and the likes of matthews, philipsen, even kooij in the near future would beat him. The only way in which he could win would be with an attack like stuyven but being the favourite he would be too marked for that
Exactly this!
 
Okay, MSR is done and dusted. So can he rule out doing Paris-Roubaix this season ? After his 2023 LBL crash I'd hate to see him wreck the rematch with Vingo at the Tour by getting injured at P-R.


There's a big chance that I'm at the start. I cannot say whether this year or next year, but there is always a chance, so let's see and let's be a little bit surprised

Hopefully next year if it has to be in the next 5 years. Glad to read that Gianetti is also worried about the possibility of crashing. IMO Pogacar should target P-R after he turns 30.
 
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Okay, MSR is done and dusted. So can he rule out doing Paris-Roubaix this season ? After his 2023 LBL crash I'd hate to see him wreck the rematch with Vingo at he Tour by getting injured at P-R.




Hopefully next year if it has to be in the next 5 years. Glad to read that Gianetti is also worried about the possibility of crashing. IMO Pogacar should target P-R after he turns 30.
He needs to try before. He can be the second rider ever to win everything in cycling (GTs, monuments and WC).
 
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I have been following msr for more than a decade now, and I remember watching sagan trying and fail to win this race being the favourite almost every year. The reason why sagan never won and vdp has won twice is pogacar, I believe nobody could argue with that. If vdp had the entire peloton looking at him (like sagan had) he could not win msr, simply because if he had to initiate an attack on poggio himself (with everybody on his wheel and not after pog has attacked) he could not drop everybody, the group contesting the win would be inevitably be much larger and the likes of matthews, philipsen, even kooij in the near future would beat him. The only way in which he could win would be with an attack like stuyven but being the favourite he would be too marked for that
Finally we got mou esque analysis👏. It seems @mou has left his dna on some
 
I am going to be an outlier here and the top two places owe their podium spots to pogi, full stop. It was at least as much about tactics, in particular dismal team tactics by UAE management, than it was about strength of prevailing riders. Pogi made the payments that MVP and Ganna profited from. Now we gotta read about water bottle attacks explainers.
OK, but if TP wasn't at the race, the winner would be the same so...
 
I have been following msr for more than a decade now, and I remember watching sagan trying and fail to win this race being the favourite almost every year. The reason why sagan never won and vdp has won twice is pogacar, I believe nobody could argue with that. If vdp had the entire peloton looking at him (like sagan had) he could not win msr, simply because if he had to initiate an attack on poggio himself (with everybody on his wheel and not after pog has attacked) he could not drop everybody, the group contesting the win would be inevitably be much larger and the likes of matthews, philipsen, even kooij in the near future would beat him. The only way in which he could win would be with an attack like stuyven but being the favourite he would be too marked for that
Well-written and good analysis.
 
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Ganna doesn't owe him shite. He chased Cipressa and full Poggio basically on his own, if anything Pog should be thankful that he pulled in between the climbs for no reason whatsoever.
Like I get it, it was a great race but some fans really want to give credit to Pogacar for literally everything on the road.
But what kind of race you would get without Pogacar? An attack with 800m to the top of Poggio? Probably 3 or 4 riders able to follow MVP and you have a sprint in the final.
 
Ganna doesn't owe him shite. He chased Cipressa and full Poggio basically on his own, if anything Pog should be thankful that he pulled in between the climbs for no reason whatsoever.
Like I get it, it was a great race but some fans really want to give credit to Pogacar for literally everything on the road.
Pogi got what he deserved because his race was so poorly managed by the team in terms of personnel and resources. The other two on the podium got what they did because they were just strong enough to stay on pogis wheel and stronger at the flat end.