Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[Gratemans]

Where did you see? Don't tell me PCS please.

Nevermind, it was a fake post by Tim Cahill over in the RVV race thread. Well he got me, I guess.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Nevermind, it was a fake post by Tim Cahill over in the RVV race thread. Well he got me, I guess.

Of course Wellens will be there.

 

[Gratemans]

Of course Wellens will be there.

Like you said, unless he's ill I can't imagine him not being there.

 

[JoãoRamos]

For me, the best strategy is to repeat 2023.

In 2023, UAE worked hard, and Pogacar attacked with 55 km to go.

Matteo Trentin was in the breakaway, and he played a crucial role in setting a strong pace after Pog and VDP caught the breakaway riders. Then, with 18 km to go, Pog attacked again, and VDP didn’t respond.

So, I think UAE should use the same tactic: send Vermeersch in the breakaway.

They should push the race hard for about 40 km until the second climb of Oude Kwaremont. At that point, Pog needs to launch a devastating attack to force the first selection.

Vermeersch, in the breakaway, when Pog and VDP (along with any other riders who survive the first attack) catch him, should set a time trial pace all the way to the third passage of Oude Kwaremont.

Then, Pog has to go all in, attack with everything he has, and time trial to the finish. This is the best strategy to drop VDP.

 

[scribers]

You ain’t no fool’in around Joao broski

 

[Rackham]

For me, the best strategy is to repeat 2023.

In 2023, UAE worked hard, and Pogacar attacked with 55 km to go.

Matteo Trentin was in the breakaway, and he played a crucial role in setting a strong pace after Pog and VDP caught the breakaway riders. Then, with 18 km to go, Pog attacked again, and VDP didn’t respond.

So, I think UAE should use the same tactic: send Vermeersch in the breakaway.

They should push the race hard for about 40 km until the second climb of Oude Kwaremont. At that point, Pog needs to launch a devastating attack to force the first selection.

Vermeersch, in the breakaway, when Pog and VDP (along with any other riders who survive the first attack) catch him, should set a time trial pace all the way to the third passage of Oude Kwaremont.

Then, Pog has to go all in, attack with everything he has, and time trial to the finish. This is the best strategy to drop VDP.

The way Pog has been racing recently makes me think he's way beyond even thinking his teammates will be useful in the final 80km or so.

Besides is that what people even want to see? Nah, just go balls to the wall and mano-à-mano with VdP.

 

[yaf2]

If anybody thinks pog is gonna go the last time kwaremont i think they're making fool of themselves. He wants vdp & the media to bow down and apologize for what they've been talking about all week. 56km solo for sure & we will see if vdp has the balls to follow or wheel sucks behind the group like in 2023

 

[Krzysztof_O]

For me, the best strategy is to repeat 2023.

In 2023, UAE worked hard, and Pogacar attacked with 55 km to go.

Matteo Trentin was in the breakaway, and he played a crucial role in setting a strong pace after Pog and VDP caught the breakaway riders. Then, with 18 km to go, Pog attacked again, and VDP didn’t respond.

So, I think UAE should use the same tactic: send Vermeersch in the breakaway.

They should push the race hard for about 40 km until the second climb of Oude Kwaremont. At that point, Pog needs to launch a devastating attack to force the first selection.

Vermeersch, in the breakaway, when Pog and VDP (along with any other riders who survive the first attack) catch him, should set a time trial pace all the way to the third passage of Oude Kwaremont.

Then, Pog has to go all in, attack with everything he has, and time trial to the finish. This is the best strategy to drop VDP.

It's possible (and even likely IMO) that Pog launches a big attack on the penultimate Kwaremont (54 km to go) and either tries going solo or forms a 2-men group with MVP all the way to the next Kwaremont (or to the finish, in pessimistic case for him).

 

[pelotonIQ]

UAE strong tempo early in the race (to make the race difficult) > Pogacar attacks whenever the domestiques are done, those few who can follow Pogacar will do so and they will all ride off together > Pogacar will then continue to attack on every climb until he has ridden everyone off his wheels and then go solo. MvDP's only win condition is to wheel suck and survive the attacks to make it into a sprint finish.

Pogacar is the favorite and in racing you don't need to complicate things when you're the better rider. This is UAE Pogacar bread and butter, tried and tested way of winning 1 day races.

 

[kn0s]

If anybody thinks pog is gonna go the last time kwaremont i think they're making fool of themselves. He wants vdp & the media to bow down and apologize for what they've been talking about all week. 56km solo for sure & we will see if vdp has the balls to follow or wheel sucks behind the group like in 2023

Interesting, where would I find this talk from "media" and "MvdP" towards Pogacar? Is this a Twitter thing? I don't go there so might be missing the drama.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Interesting, where would I find this talk from "media" and "MvdP" towards Pogacar? Is this a Twitter thing? I don't go there so might be missing the drama.

I don't know about it either. Van der Poel always talks with big respect about Pogacar.

 

[Berniece]

Interesting, where would I find this talk from "media" and "MvdP" towards Pogacar? Is this a Twitter thing? I don't go there so might be missing the drama.

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Pogacar himself doesn't feel like this. He respects his colleagues.

 

[kn0s]

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Pogacar himself doesn't feel like this. He respects his colleagues.

I know, I know. I was not being genuine, just found it a little funny.

 

[Monsi]

It's possible (and even likely IMO) that Pog launches a big attack on the penultimate Kwaremont (54 km to go) and either tries going solo or forms a 2-men group with MVP all the way to the next Kwaremont (or to the finish, in pessimistic case for him).

Pogacar will also definitely try to drop MVDP on the Koppenberg.

 

[Peyroteo94]

The way Pog has been racing recently makes me think he's way beyond even thinking his teammates will be useful in the final 80km or so.

Besides is that what people even want to see? Nah, just go balls to the wall and mano-à-mano with VdP.

He will use his teammates, at least until the second Kwaremont. Then he will completely destroy the race.

 

[Lequack]

How they planned the Cipressa attack

https://twitter.com/x/status/1904105298236748144

View: https://x.com/TeamEmiratesUAE/status/1904105298236748144

Whole video

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWGdo-8jd7k&feature=youtu.be

 

[Peyroteo94]

Interesting, where would I find this talk from "media" and "MvdP" towards Pogacar? Is this a Twitter thing? I don't go there so might be missing the drama.

I didn't see anything in the media. MVP is a good friend of Pogacar in the peloton despite being rivals.

 

[yaf2]

View: https://youtu.be/CMxpFyudnd8?si=JaYrdaD4J9XbBIly

View: https://youtu.be/eJDCfBbzUj0?si=f3SJQeUiftXK-7OO

On the 1st vid well the title speaks for itself
And for the 2nd one tejay vangardren says tadej pogacar can be able to hold vanderpoels wheel in flanders but he will lose it anyway on the sprint i mean wth😳🤣. Vdp at the moment in in ooze confidence from what he did in cicaban

 

[Peyroteo94]

View: https://youtu.be/CMxpFyudnd8?si=JaYrdaD4J9XbBIly

View: https://youtu.be/eJDCfBbzUj0?si=f3SJQeUiftXK-7OO

On the 1st vid well the title speaks for itself
And for the 2nd one tejay vangardren says tadej pogacar can be able to hold vanderpoels wheel in flanders but he will lose it anyway on the sprint i mean wth😳🤣. Vdp at the moment in in ooze confidence from what he did in cicaban

I agree that MVP has no chance of dropping Pogacar but I believe it is not a sure deal Pogacar will drop MVP. I believe he will but I'm not 100% sure.

 

[Drew]

https://www.uaeteamemirates.com/pogacar-returns-lead-tour-flanders/

 

[yaf2]

Everybody forgets that in a real race its like watching an elite pro racing in a juniors race. And vdp and co from saying pog isn't normal at last years WC are now 6 months later saying they can beat him in flanders and this all after a cicaban race. While world TT champion who had seen enough in lombardy valleys is saying good luck👋

 

[yaf2]

https://www.uaeteamemirates.com/pogacar-returns-lead-tour-flanders/

Its over!

 

[Peyroteo94]

https://www.uaeteamemirates.com/pogacar-returns-lead-tour-flanders/

As I thought, what an incredible team.

 

[Peyroteo94]

I'm just disappointed Rui is not there but this team is really good I must say.

 

[Berflamand]

Very strong team but who will be the workhorses from km 0?

I guess that'll be Bjerg and/or Politt but that would mean using the guys who finished third and/or fourth at last years RVV.

Incredible depth.