Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[Lequack]

Meanwhile on the Poggio

 

[Velolover2]

Is that why Wout and Roglic joked about attacking on Cipressa?

Good luck with following Tadej on Poggio.

 

[Panda Claws]

"I don't post on Strava because when I fight a man for real, I don't want him to know what I can do. "
Philippe Gilbert

 

[ppanther92]

"I don't post on Strava because when I fight a man for real, I don't want him to know what I can do. "
Philippe Gilbert

Peak Gilbert used to tell reporters the exact spot he was going to attack at and still was unstoppable.

 

[Netserk]

Peak Gilbert used to tell reporters the exact spot he was going to attack at and still was unstoppable.

Wasn't that only San Sebastian?

 

[johnymax]

Wasn't that only San Sebastian?

He didn't need to for Amstel, that's for sure. Everybody knew where he was going to attack.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Escaping alone on Poggio is difficult but being in a small group is already a chance for Tadej to win, he is fast even against classic riders. Sprinters like Ewan can be a problem but maybe the UAE team will make the tempo hard on earlier climbs to tire out sprinters before Poggio. Tadej's presence adds new dynamics to the race, who knows what he will try.

 

[Lequack]

Instead of upping the tempo before the climb, Jumbo and UAE should slow it down to a crawl before a climb on the front, then launch the climbers at the bottom. No sprinter would survive a change of tempo like that.

 

[Lequack]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eu1VueJ1hwA

 

[gregrowlerson]

"Must have fell out of bed and hit his head on the night stand." Lol

 

[gregrowlerson]

"Make UAE do everything."

This knucklehead is actually right.

 

[Red Rick]

Meanwhile on the Poggio

How much faster than the old Strava record is that?

 

[Eeslliw]

You guys realise that was behing motor pacing, right?

 

[SafeBet]

How much faster than the old Strava record is that?

5" faster than the Jalabert / Fondriest record, I think.

 

[Red Rick]

5" faster than the Jalabert / Fondriest record, I think.

How sure are we the Strava segment is correct?

 

[SafeBet]

How sure are we the Strava segment is correct?

I'd say fairly sure.
Everybody knows where the Poggio starts and ends. I'd need to see the map to be 100% sure though.

 

[Red Rick]

I'd say fairly sure.
Everybody knows where the Poggio starts and ends. I'd need to see the map to be 100% sure though.

Makes sense.

In race is not entirely different from a motor pace Poggio but the pace in the peloton is often way slower waiting for the one 8% ramp.

I do think going from the bottom makes spne sensr for Pog if the rest of the favorites are positioned poorly. The switchbacks on Poggio require breaking so its no drawback to take those alone

 

[topcat]

How sure are we the Strava segment is correct?

How sure are we that Pog is going to bludgeon the opposition on the Poggio? Who's going to stay with him? Ala is out and we needed a fully in-form Ala for this debacle.

 

[SafeBet]

How sure are we that Pog is going to bludgeon the opposition on the Poggio? Who's going to stay with him? Ala is out and we needed a fully in-form Ala for this debacle.

I'd say WVA and Pidcock have a chance.

 

[Lequack]

Made the Sanremo thread finally:

Milano - Sanremo 2022, one day classic, March 19

You know this race. The oldest classic, the sprinter's classic, except when it's not. Will Pogacar, Roglic and other all rounders manager to drop the sprinters on the Poggior or not? Time will tell! https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/milano-sanremo/2022/result/overview...

forum.cyclingnews.com

 

[Oldermanish]

How sure are we that Pog is going to bludgeon the opposition on the Poggio? Who's going to stay with him? Ala is out and we needed a fully in-form Ala for this debacle.

I will offer up: there seems to be a slowly circling shark. Sagan may shock all of us and he's great at working off of other teams.

 

[Panda Claws]

I will offer up: there seems to be a slowly circling shark. Sagan may shock all of us and he's great at working off of other teams.

He is my bet to win the sprint for 7th place

 

[stonerider]

I'd say WVA and Pidcock have a chance.

WvA maybe...but not Pidcock. Pidcock's form has fallen way off since winning the CX World Championship. The same thing happened to him after winning the MTB XC Olympic Gold medal last year. He has the potential for a big peak but he isn't able to hold it for long.

 

[Big Doopie]

5" faster than the Jalabert / Fondriest record, I think.

however, they did it after 300kms...LOL! And neither of them were ever close to Pog's league. gives you a sense of how effed up those days were... ;-)

 

[tobydawq]

however, they did it after 300kms...LOL! And neither of them were ever close to Pog's league. gives you a sense of how effed up those days were... ;-)

If you watch footage from MSR in the 90's you will be surprised to see a veritable army of motos in front of the riders. So there's likely to also have been some drafting involved.