Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[Peyroteo94]

And it does look like the UAE guy, handing bottles was just past the Visma guy...and it's entirely possible that Jorgensen blocked him intentionally.

He did it on purpose. Pogacar says Visma do this constantly so it wasn't the first time.
Matteo didn't even react to Pogacar so it's clear he did it on purpose.
This interview with Matteo tell us everything. He doesn't even explain, just avoided any answer.

View: https://youtu.be/CeLdEcOb2Oo?si=ZEYbrmUwZB6qT23X

 

[ChewbaccaDefense]

He did on purpose. Pogacar says Visma do this constantly so it wasn't the first time.
Matteo didn't even react to Pogacar so it's clear he did it on purpose.
This interview with Matteo tell us everything. He doesn't even explain, just avoided any answer.

View: https://youtu.be/CeLdEcOb2Oo?si=ZEYbrmUwZB6qT23X

I really do hate things like that in any arena. The world is stressful enough, and sport is stressful enough. Intentionally messing with a simple thing like a feed is just adding stress unnecessarily, it's just stupid, especially when the guy you're poking a guy can rip your legs off whenever he wants. Plus, what harm is there in showing respect to another rider? I know I am bombastic, and can be really confrontational, so this may be hypocritical of me, but I think encouraging more kindness in the world doesn't hurt anyone.

 

[Lorzenz08]

He did it on purpose. Pogacar says Visma do this constantly so it wasn't the first time.
Matteo didn't even react to Pogacar so it's clear he did it on purpose.
This interview with Matteo tell us everything. He doesn't even explain, just avoided any answer.

View: https://youtu.be/CeLdEcOb2Oo?si=ZEYbrmUwZB6qT23X

Wait, what? I thought that " PoGaCaR is A BiG bULLy ! "

 

[ChewbaccaDefense]

Wait, what? I thought that " PoGaCaR is A BiG bULLy ! "

He can be in some ways, but this was him acting out of frustration, and he deserved to be frustrated.

 

[red_flanders]

No idea about the context or what Mateo has been up to, or whether he blocked Pogacar from a bottle or not. But I think the issue was less the shove and more the clear intent, successfully implemented, to prevent him from getting a bottle.

Yeah, but I haven't seen anything (yet) to convince me of that intent either.

Oh well. It's the Tour, everything gets amplified. I'm tilting at windmills to wish it weren't all so dumb.

 

[Peyroteo94]

I really do hate things like that in any arena. The world is stressful enough, and sport is stressful enough. Intentionally messing with a simple thing like a feed is just adding stress unnecessarily, it's just stupid, especially when the guy you're poking a guy can rip your legs off whenever he wants. Plus, what harm is there in showing respect to another rider? I know I am bombastic, and can be really confrontational, so this may be hypocritical of me, but I think encouraging more kindness in the world doesn't hurt anyone.

We have sometimes our heated discussions but I must say I like your authenticity.

 

[kingjr]

Wait, what? I thought that " PoGaCaR is A BiG bULLy ! "

lmao Matteo you muppet, turning your head to the side, "I don't need to comment on that." Just own the *** up to it

 

[red_flanders]

Why is there no animosity in the classics between Mathieu and Tadej and only respect?

Because they're both attacking riders who take risks to win.

I think clearly Pogi and Vingo respect one another's talent, but I also thing Pogi doesn't respect the way they race or the way the team, or rather it's spokesman talks and dictates tactics.

Plus, come Tour time, they're not competing directly... at least not as much as with Visma.

 

[Jeppeb]

Matteo was basically beaten.

With those twigs for arms, that was probably full power from Pog 🫢

 

[Peyroteo94]

Pogacar said he will probably race the Vuelta. Good news!

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[Cycling111]

Pogacar said he will probably race the Vuelta. Good news!

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If Almeida finishes the Tour in this condition, I think he'll be given a rest and won't be in the Vuelta.

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

Not a huge deal, but looks to me like Jorgenson did this on purpose. And teams confident in themselves don't generally stoop to such low-brow tactics. I'm fine with mental games, but blocking someone from getting a bottle is lame af.

 

[Fos]

Tadej in the last positions without worrying about losing seconds in splits during the last few kilometers? He must trust the numbers he's handling, and they must be beyond the stratosphere.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Tadej in the last positions without worrying about losing seconds in splits during the last few kilometers? He must trust the numbers he's handling, and they must be beyond the stratosphere.

Only a stage left to star the real TdF. I hope he doesn't crash because I want to see his new climbing level.

 

[Peyroteo94]

If Almeida finishes the Tour in this condition, I think he'll be given a rest and won't be in the Vuelta.

I hope his broken rib is not that bad and he can be competitive in the last week. Then recover and peak for the Vuelta.

 

[dercuforever]

The vast majority does. Are belgians celebrating Wout's second places? Or Pogacar's 2nd places in the Tour add anything to his palmares? I don't think so to be honest.

Let's agree to disagree.

 

[Cycling111]

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[CyclistAbi]

You know it's rather bad on when the arguments start at the dining table.

 

[pelotonIQ]

Tadej mentioned that this was not a one time occurence and that Visma have done this in the feed section many times before.

 

[P4rthen0n]

If they deliberately tried to disrupt his feeding, I think that's a low blow. That's bellow the belt.

Having said that, this just adds to the rivalry. Let it build up. And we're here to watch it unfold live.

 

[scribers]

The feed zones sound chaotic according to the Move guys. And such incidents are normal. So maybe they need to string these sections out more

 

[veganrob]

But why was he doing that?

Avoiding that bully Jorgensen

 

[No Excuses]

If they deliberately tried to disrupt his feeding, I think that's a low blow. That's bellow the belt.

Having said that, this just adds to the rivalry. Let it build up. And we're here to watch it unfold live.

Pog lives in their heads without paying rent. I hope he blows them out of the universe on hautacam.

 

[ChewbaccaDefense]

We have sometimes our heated discussions but I must say I like your authenticity.

Thank you, and I yours.

 

[Valv.Piti]

All this nonsense about tactics, feed zones, general animosity towards each other etc. stems from the fact that we havent seen a mountain stage yet. Thats the problem. For now its small time gaps and a lot of words, some real hard stages will calm all this down when Tadej most likely just shows to be the much superior rider. Maybe that happens tomorrow, although I doubt its a bit too easy to do real damage.