Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[ChewbaccaDefense]

We have sometimes our heated discussions but I must say I like your authenticity.

Thank you, and I yours.

 

[Valv.Piti]

All this nonsense about tactics, feed zones, general animosity towards each other etc. stems from the fact that we havent seen a mountain stage yet. Thats the problem. For now its small time gaps and a lot of words, some real hard stages will calm all this down when Tadej most likely just shows to be the much superior rider. Maybe that happens tomorrow, although I doubt its a bit too easy to do real damage.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Pogacar said he will probably race the Vuelta. Good news!

"La Vuelta is on my calendar" - Tadej Pogacar finally admits Vuelta a España return

In what was perhaps the most uneventful day of the Tour de France so far in terms of overall classification contention, Tadej Pogacar was asked in a post-race press conference about the Vuelta a Españ...

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I think it really depends on what happens at the Tour. There will be some monster stages that could suck your energy. Tour result can also affect their decision. They can reconsider this at any time and focus on WC (both RR and TT) instead.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Pog lives in their heads without paying rent. I hope he blows them out of the universe on hautacam.

That's the plan. i'm pretty sure UAE will try to win the Tour on Pyrenees.

 

[Peyroteo94]

The feed zones sound chaotic according to the Move guys. And such incidents are normal. So maybe they need to string these sections out more

I don't think so. Cycling always had moral rules and the vast majority of riders don't break these rules. However there are riders who think they are smarter than others but they eventually pay the price later.
Matteo can probably be in contention for a TdF stage win in the future but Pogacar will not allow that just like he didn't in Isola.

 

[Peyroteo94]

All this nonsense about tactics, feed zones, general animosity towards each other etc. stems from the fact that we havent seen a mountain stage yet. Thats the problem. For now its small time gaps and a lot of words, some real hard stages will calm all this down when Tadej most likely just shows to be the much superior rider. Maybe that happens tomorrow, although I doubt its a bit too easy to do real damage.

Stage 10 misses steep climbs IMHO.

 

[Peyroteo94]

I think it really depends on what happens at the Tour. There will be some monster stages that could suck your energy. Tour result can also affect their decision. They can reconsider this at any time and focus on WC (both RR and TT) instead.

The Tour will always be hard. If they are expecting to cruise in the Tour, Pogacar will never race the Vuelta.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

The Tour will always be hard. If they are expecting to cruise in the Tour, Pogacar will never race the Vuelta.

I think WC double is an attractive alternative goal though. He may never have a better chance in a WC TT and defending the RR title is also big.

 

[Peyroteo94]

I think WC double is an attractive alternative goal though. He may never have a better chance in a WC TT and defending the RR title is also big.

I'm pretty sure he doesn't give the WC TT much relevance. He normally does better TTs in the Tour because it's the only competition where he actually wants to perform in TTs and for that reason he spends more time on the TT bike before the race.

 

[SHAD0W93]

Maybe it was the reason for Pogacar to catch him in Isola.

Maybe now multiple reasons instead of just one.

 

[SHAD0W93]

Soler the next time Visma block Pogacar’s feed.

View: https://youtu.be/D4XxCZagAjk?si=xIot-CYXlLoIORTg

 

[scribers]

I don't think so. Cycling always had moral rules and the vast majority of riders don't break these rules. However there are riders who think they are smarter than others but they eventually pay the price later.
Matteo can probably be in contention for a TdF stage win in the future but Pogacar will not allow that just like he didn't in Isola.

You don’t think the move guys right? They’ve been in actual pro cycling a long time. And they say this thing is normal in that chaos

 

[Peyroteo94]

Maybe now multiple reasons instead of just one.

Pogacar will race like Contador in Verbier 2009 when they hit Hautacam.

 

[Peyroteo94]

You don’t think the move guys right? They’ve been in actual pro cycling a long time. And they say this thing is normal in that chaos

To be honest, they are incoherent sometimes. How many times, do you see them saying things like "they no longer racing like us in sprint stages", "they attack everywhere". LA and US Postal were bullies, no way a rider would break moral rules of the peloton without a big warning from them. They were in charge, they always let french riders (no GC threats) go to the break but they chose who were those guys. Back in those days, moral rules were broken but lot less than now IMHO (as a spectator who follow cycling for 25 years regularly).

 

[iBanesto]

Pogacar's form looks great here.

View: https://youtube.com/shorts/GzusyM11eBk?si=phHj4Nl0r8i66W0f

 

[No Excuses]

Pogacar will race like Contador in Verbier 2009 when they hit Hautacam.

Giving Vinge the look before a seated blast

 

[scribers]

To be honest, they are incoherent sometimes. How many times, do you see them saying things like "they no longer racing like us in sprint stages", "they attack everywhere". LA and US Postal were bullies, no way a rider would break moral rules of the peloton without a big warning from them. They were in charge, they always let french riders (no GC threats) go to the break but they chose who were those guys. Back in those days, moral rules were broken but lot less than now IMHO (as a spectator who follow cycling for 25 years regularly).

Wiggins is the biggest driver in “there’s nothing worth seeing here” regarding what happened in the feed zone. Plus, he is highly suspicious of the media coverage due to the determination to sensationalize of non stories.

 

[Cycling111]

He's going to need Adam have improved since the Giro.

 

[Jack_89]

He's just to put the hammer down on Hautacam and MTT. Then following Jonas on Superbagneres and ballistic again on Ventoux( if he wants to).
Almeyda is a loss but nothing will change.

 

[Peyroteo94]

He's going to need Adam have improved since the Giro.

Yup. If not, he will be alone against 4 Visma.

 

[Peyroteo94]

He's just to put the hammer down on Hautacam and MTT. Then following Jonas on Superbagneres and ballistic again on Ventoux( if he wants to).
Almeyda is a loss but nothing will change.

But if he isn't significantly better, he will need to be intelligent.

 

[Red Rick]

I think WC double is an attractive alternative goal though. He may never have a better chance in a WC TT and defending the RR title is also big.

You're making this logical fallacy that it has to be either/or like this is not the Pog of Greed.

 

[Cycling111]

Yup. If not, he will be alone against 4 Visma.

Vingegaard, Simon, Jorgenson. Maybe 3 vs Pogacar.

 

[Tanakka]

Vingegaard, Simon, Jorgenson. Maybe 3 vs Pogacar.

Are we ruling out Kuss, already?

 

[Cycling111]

Are we ruling out Kuss, already?

And I hope Adam is at the level of the current Kuss.