Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[Cycling111]

I don’t think that’s what they had in mind when they said pogi should let some other riders win

Wellens' victory is half thanks to Visma.

First, Campenaerts and Van Aert insisted on breaking away after the crash. At the time, Wellens was with Pogacar, but seeing the insistence of those riders, Pogacar told him to go to the break.

Then, Campenaerts seemed to be Wellens's domestique when Storer attacked and Campenaerts pulled with Wellens at his wheel the entire climb

 

[YavorD]

When Visma won the Tour, the green jersey, Van Aert in Ventoux... were there so many complaints?

I understand that people have their preferences, but it's horrible to get into the thread of the stages.

Yes. There were complaints when Visma did 1-2-3 on stages. There were complaints in 2023 as well.

 

[Cycling111]

These Flame rouge guys...

Another Visma workers.

For now they deny it, but until 2022 LR swore that they did not work for Visma. Same vibes.

 

[Cycling111]

Yes. There were complaints when Visma did 1-2-3 on stages. There were complaints in 2023 as well.

Thank you. It's caught my attention that users who call themselves jumbovismafans are the ones who complain the most and make certain comments .

 

[Offline]

I sense problems at Visma.. I don't think they are on the same page about the direction

 

[Peyroteo94]

Another day in yellow. Now some rest and prepare the Poggenheimer for tuesday.

 

[Peyroteo94]

I sense problems at Visma.. I don't think they are on the same page about the direction

Yup, they are givinp up for sure. No one cared about Vingegaard's crash.

 

[Cycling111]

I sense problems at Visma.. I don't think they are on the same page about the direction

Today, Campenaerts seemed to be in Lotto with Wellens. I've mentioned it throughout the stage: when Storer attacks, Wellens is the one who suffered the most, and he came back thanks to Campenaerts. He didn't ask for a single relay.

It was also strange when, after the crash, Vingegaard stayed behind, and three Visma riders insisted on pushing ahead. That's when Pogacar told Wellens to go with them because Wellens and Pogacar were stopping but Visma riders no.

By the way, Wellens had a rest day yesterday, and Campenaerts rode the final climb with the group. They weren't very clever there. If Visma wanted today's stage, they should have given Campenaerts a rest day yesterday, as he's not a mountain domestique.

 

[Jumbo Visma Fan :)]

Thank you. It's caught my attention that users who call themselves jumbovismafans are the ones who complain the most and make certain comments .

Why are you bringing up my name when I have not participated in this discussion thread?

 

[pelotonIQ]

I'll wait towards the Vuelta to see if Tadej races but I think it's soon time to remove my signature. It used to be a rivalry but now it's slowly turning into disrespect towards Tadej if Jonas is mentioned in the same sentence as him.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Stage 16 is perfect because his team is weak in the high mountains to control and launch him. This stage isn't hard to control and they will have 4 riders to pace 8 km of Mont Ventoux before Pogacar's attack.

 

[pelotonIQ]

Bruyneel thinks Tadej will target Ventoux and Col de la Loze stages to set the record straight with Jonas.

 

[scribers]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1946923170260234653

View: https://x.com/laflammerouge16/status/1946923170260234653?t=iA5M3D--LsuOEI4SpjjKPQ&s=19

Lol

Was sleeping in and just went back to watch. Vingo was trying to bridge across to the lead group with Jorg. As much as I want to believe all of the ugly red yellow chicken stuff, it’s just not there really according to that screen shot

 

[Peyroteo94]

Bruyneel thinks Tadej will target Ventoux and Col de la Loze stages to set the record straight with Jonas.

What record?

 

[Rou]

What record?

Pogacar's collapse on Loze and being dropped on Ventoux.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Pogacar's collapse on Loze and being dropped on Ventoux.

He will definitely target Mont Ventoux but I don't believe he will try to win on Col de la Loze.

 

[Rou]

He will definitely target Mont Ventoux but I don't believe he will try to win on Col de la Loze.

Oh, I think Loze is his BIGGEST motivation this year.
I think Soler mentioned it as well.
I think Pog wants to put minutes into Jonas there.

 

[Offline]

Just saw a interview where Pogacar basically said: ''I was Jonas best and only helper today''
Haha

 

[Peyroteo94]

Oh, I think Loze is his BIGGEST motivation this year.
I think Soler mentioned it as well.
I think Pog wants to put minutes into Jonas there.

Soler said Pogacar will be in the Vuelta too. I will wait to see that.

 

[Cycling111]

Just saw a interview where Pogacar basically said: ''I was Jonas best and only helper today''
Haha

Ironically Visma really caused Wellens' victory.

Pogacar said they were going to let the breakaway go today, they weren't going involved in the break, but seeing Visma insisting and him waiting, he gave Wellens permission to try.

Without that situation, no UAE would´ve go into a break. Campanaerts was also Wellens' best domestique.

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

 

[scribers]

Soler said Pogacar will be in the Vuelta too. I will wait to see that.

Did he? It means something more when teammates declare such things

 

[Cycling111]

Wellens is the UAE's best signing for Pogacar.
It's a shame he wasn't lucky in the classics with the accidents.

Ayuso and other young riders are good signings, but for them as a team. For Pogacar, it's definitely Wellens, a complete rider and a great person, everyone says so.

Today's stage reminded me of the one he won in the Giro and Vuelta. They were like that. He won a similar stage in the 2020 Vuelta.
He fought the stage because Pogacar gave him permission. Wellens is one of those cyclists who Pogacar knows will always prioritize helping him.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Did he? It means something more when teammates declare such things

In the beginning of the season.

 

[Oldman]

Matteo isn't a worldclass climber. Where did he try to follow Pogacar?
I don't think it will result but Visma need to try something.

Matteo isn't a match for Pogacar and IMO may never get there. He is very strong but it doesn't equal the jumpiness of Tadej and some others. That's also the issue for Jonas, now. Tadej can do a quick jump and press the issue for a km. Jonas responds and Tadej simply does it again when he almost closes the gap. If there is hope it's that sort of tactic won't work on Ventoux if there is a headwind. Both guys may be sidelined until Stage 18 by conditions neither can overcome except maybe the last km.
It seems like a torture fest for the riders and the fans.