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Peyroteo94 said:
It is just a embaressment to compare Merckx to Pogacar when talking about raw talent. There is zero doubt in my mind Pogacar is better, he needs to win way more (all GTs, all monuments) to be considered the Goat but in other way it is also difficult to accept Merckx is the Goat of cycling when we look to races like RVV and PR and most riders in the top10 (6,7,8) are belgian riders. It is also like a Nationals championship.
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Embarrasment is a but much ? Aye pog only needs another 6 grand tours, 7 san remos, a few Roubaixs and a couple more world championships.

All those Belgians in the top ten lived for the ronde, Van der poel can’t lace De vlaemincks cleats.

The tour now is two rider procession, weakest era ever, who cares if a few scrappy brits, Colombians and Australians are sat in the grupetto.

Pogacar is weak, his only rival in the tour is doing a Lance every year and still can’t win, his main classics rivals would be ridden off the wheel of Van Looy or De Vlamincks in the first 10km.
 
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Embarrasment is a but much ? Aye pog only needs another 6 grand tours, 7 san remos, a few Roubaixs and a couple more world championships.

All those Belgians in the top ten lived for the ronde, Van der poel can’t lace De vlaemincks cleats.

The tour now is two rider procession, weakest era ever, who cares if a few scrappy brits, Colombians and Australians are sat in the grupetto.

Pogacar is weak, his only rival in the tour is doing a Lance every year and still can’t win, his main classics rivals would be ridden off the wheel of Van Looy or De Vlamincks in the first 10km.
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Ok mate. Different opinions. I show you some facts, you can take them or ignore them and maintain your opinion based on nothing.
 
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Peyroteo94 said:
Ok mate. Different opinions. I show you some facts, you can take them or ignore them and maintain your opinion based on nothing.
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I see your facts, everyone knows it’s harder to dominate all through the calendar year now than when Merckx did, but I think it’s a bit absurd to say Pogacar is already the goat above Merckx. He still has to win quite a bit to take that mantle.
 
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The tour is so weak now there are only two guys who can get up a mountain ,Zoetemelk or Van impe would dance away.
Merckx can do a comeback next year and still finish thirds.
 
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Monsi said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1949443315910508737
View: https://x.com/cirogazzetta/status/1949443315910508737?s=61&t=ZKEjWhZs_lhx6xYjfM44ig


Would’ve loved to see him at the Vuelta but at least he can have a lot of rest and fully recover before tackling the Worlds and a tilt at the Autumn classics again.
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He already said they will announce after a few days.
Some people keep talking about the TDF 2025 being the hardest ever, bla, bla, bla.
I don't think so.
The avg. speed after Stage 20 is 42.882 km/h. I expect it to go above 43 km/h after today.
For me the TDF 2022 was harder for Pogacar. It had the record until this year at 42.114 km/h. It was harder for him for several reasons:
- The cobbled stage in the first week which exhausted him
- The Granon Stage which destroyed him
- He was attacking like crazy almost every day before collapsing on Hautacam
Pogacar in 22 was younger and still being coached by the bald fraud. The TDF 2022 was the HARDEST ONE for him. No questions about that.
 
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YellowSocks said:
I agree, there's a crappy atmosphere at the end of This tour. Whether Pocacar is doing it on purpose or not, a winner with that kind of attitude is not exactly inspiring.
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Pressure, hard racing after already other early season peaks, a competing team that made the race hard for you since day one, break tests you with their car, sends riders to block you while fetching bottles, a crash, a cold and in general 3 weeks of racing - and people are like "why is he not smiling?", "why is he tired?"

Lol...
 
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Peyroteo94 said:
With this 4th Tour, Pogacar wins also his 3rd Velo d'Or.
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Not guaranteed. You will see. If he doesn't win the Vuelta but wins Lombardia + World's they will find a reason to not give it to him.
It was impossible last year with the Triple Crown but we'll see this year.
 
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Monsi said:
Should already be sealed. And even more so if he wins the Worlds and a 3rd Monument.
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Imagine Vingegaard winning Tour-Vuelta. Pogacar needed this Tour to seal his 3rd Velo d'Or without a doubt.
The record is from LA (got stripped from these wins though).
 
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Some people are accepting a Vuelta non-participation but I'm not.
I'm one of the most hardcore Pog fans and I don't accept excuses.
The plan was to do the Vuelta and he needs to follow it. I can't accept that Visma broke him these 3 weeks.
That's from me.
 
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Rou said:
Not guaranteed. You will see. If he doesn't win the Vuelta but wins Lombardia + World's they will find a reason to not give it to him.
It was impossible last year with the Triple Crown but we'll see this year.
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Nah. Tour, 2 Monuments, Dauphine, and 2 podiums in 2 other Monuments should be enough already. And of course, he’s not done just yet.
 
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Some people are accepting a Vuelta non-participation but I'm not.
I'm one of the most hardcore Pog fans and I don't accept excuses.
The plan was to do the Vuelta and he needs to follow it. I can't accept that Visma broke him these 3 weeks.
That's from me.
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This is not a videogame but I will be also disappointed if he decides to not race the Vuelta.
 
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Peyroteo94 said:
This is not a videogame but I will be also disappointed if he decides to not race the Vuelta.
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I know it's not but Pog wants to be the GOAT right?
He needs to do it the right way then.
I can't accept running away from Visma. Jonas knew that he would get crushed in the Dauphine but he went. He knows that he may be pummeled in the Vuelta but he is still going.
 
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Charlyghoul said:
Perhaps Eddy should have won 1000 victories instead of 500 ? But he raced only against drunken Flemish part timers, maybe he should have 2000.
Pogacar can only be goat if he does the giro-tour-vuelta triple every year until he is 41.
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Eddy has 279 Victories. Stop with 500 Victories LIE.
I think Pog realistically can retire with 200 Victories.
 
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Rou said:
Eddy has 279 Victories. Stop with 500 Victories LIE.
I think Pog realistically can retire with 200 Victories.
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Pog can’t even win one san remo or a roubaix, feats Eddy accomplished many many times.

Pog may have fell off on purpose at Roubaix, scared of getting beaten in a square go by Van der poel, the poor man’s De Vlameinck.

Now he’s scared of getting beaten at the Vuelta we are hearing?

He lost twice in his prime to his only rival at the tour, Anquetil or Merckx never suffered such ignominy.

This man is your goat and messiah?
 
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