Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[The bald fraud]

Roglic doesn't have a chance. He is not that good anymore.

You are constantly underestimating Roglič. He was second in Giro TT this year (a second behind Tarling despite a flat course) and third in Peyragudes. On a hilly TT course like in Rwanda, he is easily among top 5 favourites.

Of course, Pogačar is no. 1 favourite on a hilly TT course like that. And this might be one of the reasons he skips Vuelta (in addition to fatigue). There will never be a more suitable TT course and thus a better chance for Pogačar's WC TT title than this year. Add to that he wants to defend his RR rainbow jersey and finish the season with record 5th consecutive Lombardia.

 

[Pogacsa]

So returning to the "team strength" discussion, what will Belgium do if a group go up the road?

 

[Peyroteo94]

You are constantly underestimating Roglič. He was second in Giro TT this year (a second behind Tarling despite a flat course) and third in Peyragudes. On a hilly TT course like in Rwanda, he is easily among top 5 favourites.

Of course, Pogačar is no. 1 favourite on a hilly TT course like that. And this might be one of the reasons he skips Vuelta (in addition to fatigue). There will never be a more suitable TT course and thus a better chance for Pogačar's WC TT title than this year. Add to that he wants to defend his RR rainbow jersey and finish the season with record 5th consecutive Lombardia.

No, I'm not underestimating him. I never said he wasn't able to get a medal, I just said he can't win. Why am I underestimating?

 

[QueenStagiaire]

So returning to the "team strength" discussion, what will Belgium do if a group go up the road?

Being in the group

 

[The bald fraud]

No, I'm not underestimating him. I never said he wasn't able to get a medal, I just said he can't win. Why am I underestimating?

With Pogačar there, no one else can realistically win anyway (not even Remco on a course like that). But Pogačar will be there unless he does Vuelta.

 

[rafa92]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1950159346219749630

View: https://x.com/lucasaganronald/status/1950159346219749630

the tour is over and pog is magically back on his v5rs. For context he has never used this bike in the tour and he also has never used it in all the trainings pre tour in isola 2000 (in all the images from that period he was always using the aero bike). I really hope that he will permanently go back to this bike

 

[Peyroteo94]

With Pogačar there, no one else can realistically win anyway (not even Remco on a course like that). But Pogačar will be there unless he does Vuelta.

So you say I am underestimating Roglic but you end up agreeing with me. Strange.

 

[Eddy Evenepoel]

Pogacar can't control 20 riders going at 100-120 km to the finish line.

20 riders (from probably 12-15 different nations) can’t control Pogacar going at 100 km to the finish line either…

 

[Peyroteo94]

20 riders (from probably 12-15 different nations) can’t control Pogacar going at 100 km to the finish line either…

He will not do another Zurich

 

[Berniece]

He will not do another Zurich

Why not? It's not like he is riding Vuelta, so he will be fit enough for it

 

[Peyroteo94]

Why not? It's not like he is riding Vuelta, so he will be fit enough for it

This is not a videogame. WC is where all big boys are (depending on the profile).

 

[Berniece]

This is not a videogame. WC is where all big boys are (depending on the profile).

He did it last year...

 

[dazaau]

This is not a videogame. WC is where all big boys are (depending on the profile).

Too much climbing for the big boys this year 😂

 

[YavorD]

This is not a videogame. WC is where all big boys are (depending on the profile).

Unironically that may be his best/only realistic way to win.

Unless, of course, he bribes some other nations to work for him.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

He did it last year...

And it almost lost him the race when none of the other top favorites had the legs to challenge him anyway.

 

[Rou]

This is not a videogame. WC is where all big boys are (depending on the profile).

Come on man.. big boys...
To be honest I view this year's World's as an exotic trip to Africa. Little prestige.

 

[Eddy Evenepoel]

And it almost lost him the race when none of the other top favorites had the legs to challenge him anyway.

Last year the parkour were not as hard as this year and there were longer stretches of flat/downhill where there is a huge benefit from sitting in groups. Just from how the route looks i would say it should be much easier for the strongest rider to do a long solo this year.

 

[MariaB]

Pogi won his 4th Tour.

But he seems so mentally tired.

It's a shame he won't go to Vuelta this year.

 

[carolina]

Vuelta team announced. Tadej is not going.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Vuelta team announced. Tadej is not going.

What a disgrace! Ayuso is there!

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Vuelta team announced. Tadej is not going.

Why not publish the Lombardia team and next year‘s Tour team as well while they‘re at it.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Why not publish the Lombardia team and next year‘s Tour team as well while they‘re at it.

Another Visma win in a GT

 

[Escarabajo]

Pogi won his 4th Tour.

But he seems so mentally tired.

It's a shame he won't go to Vuelta this year.

It is the Tour. I feel like he just want to ride his bike and enjoy. Media ask him too many questions and there are many obligations that you have to do at the Tour. He is still very young and can feel the pressure and feel overwhelmed at times.

 

[Cycling111]

Another Visma win in a GT

11GT. The most dominant team in GT since Sky, but they don't complain about that dominance much.

It's a stupid detail, but they put Ayuso in the photo as if he were the first leader.

I wonder what Almeida thinks about being promised the leadership if Pogacar didn't go and now they do this to him.

They'll keep saying Ayuso is mistreated in the team when he leads GT and several races every year.
And I don't believe that age suddenly doesn't matter for the UAE. This is a consequence of the blackmail of leaving the team.

 

[Rou]

@Peyroteo94
My point still stands.
Vingegaard has better recovery than Pogacar to do a Tour-Vuelta double.