In my opinion, the best year to race Giro-Vuelta and skip the Tour would be 2028.
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The Tour is probably the best preparation for the Olympics, so no reason to skip it for Giro-Vuelta. Especially if he hasn't won the monuments he wants/needs by 2028.
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You made a factual assertion: that Vingegaard said in January that the WC was one of his two goals for the season.
If that is true, then there must be a public source of him saying so from January. You have refused repeatedly to tell what you base your factual assertion on. If it's not possible to find a source from January where he says so, then your claim must be false.
You have now made that claim repeatedly, and your continued refusal to acknowledge that there are no sources for it make your behavior indistinguishable from deliberately deceitful misinformation.
That Vingegaard later on in May spoke of the Worlds is no support for your assertion of what he said publicly in January. You made no interpretation, you gave no opinion. You asserted what the public record was. Wrongly, and without any admission of failure. You contaminate the epistemic commons.
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Anyone knows the reason for 2027 WC to be raced on late August or early September?
I would love the Vuelta to go back to September to be honest.
I would love the Vuelta to go back to September to be honest.
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El Toro is a dominator in all those mickey mouse races. They can try him in UAE Tour.
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I think Suisse would be much better next year with it dropping to 5 days as will conserve some energy.
I don’t think he even needs to do a stage race ahead of the Tour though and this may help him decompress post LBL and have enough rest time to then add Vuelta to the back end of the season.
I think he might not do Suisse because it is "only" five days and he wants more days + tougher competition before the Tour. Get a good view of his main opponents as well.
I definitely thinks he needs a race before the Tour. He cant skip that with not much stage-racing before it.
And decompress to rest after LBL is not to think of. He needs to train and do camp in May to be ready.
What you are suggesting doesnt work or isnt how it works.
Adding Vuelta is just out of the question when doing classics + Tour. Because of the racing and prep, needing to be at very high level from March to end of Tour.
There is no time to sit on your ass during this time.
Even after his crash in LBL in 2023, he couldnt rest much. He had to start doing training despite injury to be somewhat ready for Tour. It still wasnt enough.
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His problem is only after TdS. He can't have another training block.
Unless one or both of you have spoken to Jonas; how could you know? A wish to do something is hardly a commitment worth this level of anality. That's the derivative of banality....
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His calendar was announced in January at a team training camp where he also gave some interviews. C111 claimed: "Vingegaard said in January that his goals were the Tour and the World Championships."
It's not a claim about what he wished nor what his goals were. It's a claim about what he said in public. Such a claim can only be true if there exists a source of him saying so.
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But with TdS, I think he can delay his preparation for the Tour.
He can start his training camp in middle May.
He can rest a full week (active recovery), do some recons and training at home and then go to Sierra Nevada. It seems perfect IMO.
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I think there is a real chance Vingegaard will race Giro-Tour and for that reason I think Pogacar can have a more relaxed approach to the TdF.
I genuinely believe he was too hot in the Dauphiné (and he paid in the Tour) because he wanted to make a statement before the Tour.
Don't know if more people share the same opinion.
I genuinely believe he was too hot in the Dauphiné (and he paid in the Tour) because he wanted to make a statement before the Tour.
Don't know if more people share the same opinion.
The crash didn't help, and also if he wasn't feeling well.
I do think Jonas will race, and win, the Giro.
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Pogačar can opt to ride the Vuelta in 2026 but with a WCRR course that suits him, I just don’t think it will happen and instead his 2025 blueprint of Spring Classics-Tour-Worlds/Lombardia is likely to be repeated with a few minor adjustments here and there.
2027 though offers an interesting possibility, because the Worlds are scheduled to the usual Vuelta calendar slot, so in my opinion, it will make sense for Pogačar to ride the Vuelta after the Worlds, a bit like the LBL-Giro combo that he did last year.
2028 and 2029 will likely have flat WCRR routes so he can also ride the Vuelta in those two years, so I am definitely bullish that Pogačar will win the Vuelta at least once in his career.
2027 though offers an interesting possibility, because the Worlds are scheduled to the usual Vuelta calendar slot, so in my opinion, it will make sense for Pogačar to ride the Vuelta after the Worlds, a bit like the LBL-Giro combo that he did last year.
2028 and 2029 will likely have flat WCRR routes so he can also ride the Vuelta in those two years, so I am definitely bullish that Pogačar will win the Vuelta at least once in his career.
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- Mar 20, 2022
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That crash is a big mistery to me.
He destroyed Vingegaard right after the stage where he fell.
Yeps, two big efforts and then Pogi went on the defensive. But just following Jonas is more than any other rider can do.
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I've read speculation that it was his other knee that bothered him, not on the side he landed on, due to his (compensating?) position on the bike in the MTT.
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At least, he overcame this adversity and looked better than ever in the Fall.
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Yes, it was weird. Two of his three best days at the Tour ( Hautacam, Peyreguades) followed the crash. He got worse later.
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The body still use some extra energy to heal wounds after a crash as hard as his, even if there were no injuries. That on top of I think its mostly understated that he was allegedly a little sick last week, that alone is enough to drop performance by a few percent.
After he spoke about his pain surrounding his knee short-term caused by compensating for his position post-crash, I dont find it strange anymore. It makes perfect sense unless hes lying for absolutely no reason imo.
After he spoke about his pain surrounding his knee short-term caused by compensating for his position post-crash, I dont find it strange anymore. It makes perfect sense unless hes lying for absolutely no reason imo.
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