Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[BubbaChuck]

Decathlon is gonna be worse than Visma.They already lying through the teeth.

Motorbike influence questioned in Pogacar’s Roubaix comeback - 'We were riding 15kph faster'

Paris–Roubaix once again delivered drama, but not all of it unfolded purely between the riders. According to Oliver Naesen (Decathlon CMA CGM), the race…

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[Coppi-Bartali]

In Paris-Roubaix there are many cars between sectors; Van Aert himself was behind cars after his puncture.
But From the images taken from the helicopter, it didn't seem like Pogacar was behind the cars.

By the way, Van Aert finished third in Milano-San Remo because Visma riders followed Visma car after the accident, and nobody said anything...

 

[rafa92]

Decathlon is gonna be worse than Visma.They already lying through the teeth.

Motorbike influence questioned in Pogacar’s Roubaix comeback - 'We were riding 15kph faster'

Paris–Roubaix once again delivered drama, but not all of it unfolded purely between the riders. According to Oliver Naesen (Decathlon CMA CGM), the race…

www.domestiquecycling.com

his interview is ridiculous and completely false. I have rewatched pogacar's chase, in the first KMs he is alone and he has no motorbike in front of him, while the main group clearly has one. Then when pollitt and morgado help him there's a moto in front of their group but it's at a big distance, completely normal situation. Finally pogacar has to close the last part of the gap by himself and again there's not a single motorbike in front of him because the main group is not far enough.
If I were a rider I would be ashamed of myself after giving such a stupid interview

 

[canina82]

his interview is ridiculous and completely false. I have rewatched pogacar's chase, in the first KMs he is alone and he has no motorbike in front of him, while the main group clearly has one. Then when pollitt and morgado help him there's a moto in front of their group but it's at a big distance, completely normal situation. Finally pogacar has to close the last part of the gap by himself and again there's not a single motorbike in front of him because the main group is not far enough.
If I were a rider I would be ashamed of myself after giving such a stupid interview

100% this.

 

[vappa]

his interview is ridiculous and completely false. I have rewatched pogacar's chase, in the first KMs he is alone and he has no motorbike in front of him, while the main group clearly has one. Then when pollitt and morgado help him there's a moto in front of their group but it's at a big distance, completely normal situation. Finally pogacar has to close the last part of the gap by himself and again there's not a single motorbike in front of him because the main group is not far enough.
If I were a rider I would be ashamed of myself after giving such a stupid interview

The stupidest thing I noticed about the interview was claiming the group went 15km/h faster because of the "wall of motorbikes"

 

[Coppi-Bartali]

Even a collaborator of LR (Visma environment) says that wasn't the case.

As I mentioned, Paris-Roubaix is usually a chaotic race,they'd normally have some car in front, but that wasn't even the case.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2044476090412847464

View: https://x.com/LucGrefte/status/2044476090412847464

 

[canina82]

Natural bias. The reason behind Naesen's comments.

And don't forget, Naesen is irrelevant nowadays in classics compared to his younger version (10 years ago) so talking about Pogacar gives him media and an opportunity to not disappear in relevance.

'It takes away all hope, that's how big the difference is' – Tadej Pogačar's riding is beyond demotivating, says Classics rival

The peloton is now riding at three speeds, says Belgian rouleur Oliver Naesen

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[Krzysztof_O]

Pogacar continues an incredible streak of 10 consecutive monument podiums (7 victories, 2 runner-ups, one 3rd place), which includes:
1) two victories in Lombardy
2) two victories in Liege
3) two victories in Flandres
4) a victory and a 3rd in San Remo
5) two runner-ups in Roubaix

On top of that two gold medals in WC.

 

[pelotonIQ]

his interview is ridiculous and completely false. I have rewatched pogacar's chase, in the first KMs he is alone and he has no motorbike in front of him, while the main group clearly has one. Then when pollitt and morgado help him there's a moto in front of their group but it's at a big distance, completely normal situation. Finally pogacar has to close the last part of the gap by himself and again there's not a single motorbike in front of him because the main group is not far enough.
If I were a rider I would be ashamed of myself after giving such a stupid interview

If Seixas pans out to his potential or repeatedly gets beaten by Pogacar, everyone will start to see how insufferable the French team/fans are. The only thing that have held back their mouths is the lack of a French GT winner for decades.

 

[Monsi]

Just looking ahead to Romandie

https://twitter.com/x/status/2044756020736528780

View: https://x.com/ammattipyoraily/status/2044756020736528780?s=20


He could genuinely win all stages.
- Stage 1 is 3 km and has an 800 m climb at like 7%.
- The main climb on stage 2 is 9 km at almost 10%..
- Stages 3 and 4 might be for the likes of Godon but he can still be in the mix (The main climb on stage 4 is "only" 6%).
- The last climb on stage 5 is 8 km at 8%.
- Stage 6 is a summit finish.

I think he'll be winning 3 stages minimum.

 

[BahamontesPhantom]

If Seixas went on to dominate 29/30 year old Pog we would see how fickle cycling fans are.

 

[canina82]

Veermersch said his job was marking other favorites to let Pogacar come back.

View: https://youtu.be/cGyWE_RO0vs?si=C_aFYBgMYo3rnRYw

 

[canina82]

Just looking ahead to Romandie

https://twitter.com/x/status/2044756020736528780

View: https://x.com/ammattipyoraily/status/2044756020736528780?s=20


He could genuinely win all stages.
- Stage 1 is 3 km and has an 800 m climb at like 7%.
- The main climb on stage 2 is 9 km at almost 10%..
- Stages 3 and 4 might be for the likes of Godon but he can still be in the mix (The main climb on stage 4 is "only" 6%).
- The last climb on stage 5 is 8 km at 8%.
- Stage 6 is a summit finish.

I think he'll be winning 3 stages minimum.

But he won't. I'm thrilled to see his performance in the prologue. I hope he can win there.

 

[rafa92]

But he won't. I'm thrilled to see his performance in the prologue. I hope he can win there.

I am very curious to see his level on long climbs, in an interview from prieto they say that this year ha started training for climbing later than in other seasons to be more ready for the classics, so let's see his level on long cimbs. Skipping amstel and fleche is a good thing because he can start preparing for the tour just after PR

 

[vappa]

I am very curious to see his level on long climbs, in an interview from prieto they say that this year ha started training for climbing later than in other seasons to be more ready for the classics, so let's see his level on long cimbs. Skipping amstel and fleche is a good thing because he can start preparing for the tour just after PR

You won't see his level. He should be winning this easily even at 90%, I seriously doubt he'll go all out on any climb

 

[canina82]

You won't see his level. He should be winning this easily even at 90%, I seriously doubt he'll go all out on any climb

This is what I have been saying for years. We can't see Pogacar's level until he races against Vingegaard. There is really no point because he is doing "sunday rides" 1 minute ahead of everyone.

 

[Coppi-Bartali]

Without altitude you cannot see the level of climbing close to the Tour.

 

[Rou]

You won't see his level. He should be winning this easily even at 90%, I seriously doubt he'll go all out on any climb

He will go all out on the monster climb on stage 2.
It's really hard and perfect for a test.
It's also 35 kms from the finish so he will want to create a solid gap.
On the other stages he can ride and climb with reserves.

 

[Rou]

Without altitude you cannot see the level of climbing close to the Tour.

It's about measuring his base level(relatively) against Seixas and Vingegaard. They were also not at peak July form.

 

[canina82]

I am very curious to see his level on long climbs, in an interview from prieto they say that this year ha started training for climbing later than in other seasons to be more ready for the classics, so let's see his level on long cimbs. Skipping amstel and fleche is a good thing because he can start preparing for the tour just after PR

More time to recover before LBL and he will use Romandie to warm up for the TdF. Stage 1 will be good to see his climbing level and probably we will see him climb at 1900-2000 m/h for 26'

 

[Coppi-Bartali]

It's about measuring his base level(relatively) against Seixas and Vingegaard. They were also not at peak July form.

But Sexias did have an altitude training camp. That makes it more likely he was closer to his peak form for the Tour.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

He will go all out on the monster climb on stage 2.
It's really hard and perfect for a test.
It's also 35 kms from the finish so he will want to create a solid gap.
On the other stages he can ride and climb with reserves.

But does it make sense to go a bloc with so much flat remaining afterwards? If attacks on stage 2 it will also be with some reserves left, he'll easily distance everybody on this climb anyway. I'm not even sure he will attack on that stage at all.

 

[BahamontesPhantom]

I will be astounded if sexy ass gets anywhere near Pog and Ving in this tour, over 3 weeks he will have a bad day somewhere.

 

[Rou]

But does it make sense to go a bloc with so much flat remaining afterwards? If attacks on stage 2 it will also be with some reserves left, he'll easily distance everybody on this climb anyway.

Seixas also attacked with 26 kms to go and put 58 secs on Lipowitz on the climb.
Time gaps are relative but his numbers will give some indication how Pog's doing.

 

[Coppi-Bartali]

Seixas also attacked with 26 kms to go and put 58 secs on Lipowitz on the climb.
Time gaps are relative but his numbers will give some indication how Pog's doing.

The differences between races are relative. Each race has its own context and its own level of exertion.

Besides, more than a month will have passed.