Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[Oldermanish]

Is it? I rarely follow sports betting so couldn't possibly say.

But you are right in the metrics of betting. With small numbers of bettors it only takes some impassioned fans to begin skewwing odds of "winning" a bet. It in no way reflects on actual odds of winning the actual race.
Unless some mobster has a family member hostage to assure some outcome...

 

[Valv.Piti]

When Tommeke speaks, I listen

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Twitter translated:
"If Pogacar instead of a Colnago bike competed with a Cervelo or Pinarello it would go 2 km faster and would be unbeatable" Tom Boonen, world champion: "Pogacar is making a big mistake by racing with an old Colnago brand bike."

C@zzo di bici!! C@zzo di bici!!!

 

[Aimar16]

It is just weird to me how in this era of watt gains UAE are just comfortable accepting mid level product when there's so much room for improvement.

I heard BMC is leaving AG2R after this year. I can't remember how long the Colnago contract runs, but this is a golden ticket if I've ever seen one.

Colnago is owned by the UAE

 

[Panda Claws]

The disrespect to Boonen in this thread

 

[Lequack]

Warming down on a TT bike

https://twitter.com/x/status/1632768353088544768

View: https://twitter.com/TeamEmiratesUAE/status/1632768353088544768?s=20

 

[Andy schleck]

Colnago is a **** bike when pogacar loses. Colnago is a awesome bike when pogacar wins sprints and the tour france.

 

[Andy schleck]

Emirates was the second team with most wins in 2022. How they won so much with a weak bike?

 

[Netserk]

Emirates was the second team with most wins in 2022. How they won so much with a weak bike?

 

[Andy schleck]

: I'm sorry for you. I’m sorry that you can’t dream big. I'm sorry you don't believe in miracles".

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Sporza's mole in the peloton had this to say about the matter:

I also heard in the podcast (with Boonen etc) that Tadej Pogacar at UAE Team Emirates does not have the best bike. I want to nuance that a bit.

Pogacar and co have been riding a new and better Colnago bike since this year, they switched from Campagnolo to Shimano and ride with ENVE wheels.

So better material and I also notice that in the race. The entire UAE squad has taken another step forward. Just look at a Rui Oliveira, who was up there in the opening weekend.

 

[tobydawq]

Sounds like Boonen is really big on the. "I love Pogacar. He is the best. Therefor, when he loses there must be some magical external reason for it. " type of reasoning. Then he spun the wheel of fortune and it stopped at "bicycle"

Lol

Spoiler: Disclaimer

I didn't really lol.

 

[DNP-Old]

Colnago is owned by the UAE

Ah yes, that was it. It’s holding them back severely. They’d be better off having kept their Merida from the Lampre days at this point. UAE doesn’t even need top of the food chain product, good enough would probably suffice for their amount of talent.

 

[Red Rick]

Lol

Spoiler: Disclaimer

I didn't really lol.

Ofcourse you didn't.

It's weird that people can make outrageous claims which then magically get credibility because it's a former pro saying it. 2km/h difference doesn't pass any sniff test lol. That's like 50 watts

 

[Peyroteo94]

Great result for him. Probably, he will win this race on bonus seconds.

 

[Lequack]

Nice TTT today

 

[JosefK]

Pog stomp incoming ...

 

[Elos Anjos]

Nice TTT today

Someone once said that the way Pogacar rides is like a kid playing in a sandbox. I think he is beatable, but his dominance also comes from taking everything so lightly.

 

[CyclistAbi]

So at PN and after TTT stage Pogi is 11s down in regards to Jonas. In my opinion is his race to lose now.

Chapeau.

 

[saunaking]

Ofcourse you didn't.

It's weird that people can make outrageous claims which then magically get credibility because it's a former pro saying it. 2km/h difference doesn't pass any sniff test lol. That's like 50 watts

I can tell you anytime I bought a new bike I would be in tears after a few rides realizing its not making me any faster

 

[saunaking]

Pog stomp incoming ...

nah, its a Pogcinieration

 

[Oldermanish]

Warming down on a TT bike

https://twitter.com/x/status/1632768353088544768

View: https://twitter.com/TeamEmiratesUAE/status/1632768353088544768?s=20

This bike looks reasonably fast. When you're climbing the transfer of power is more important than aerodynamics to Tommeke must be back on his old Party Train to think that's the most important thing on Tadej's tech agenda.

 

[Oldermanish]

I can tell you anytime I bought a new bike I would be in tears after a few rides realizing its not making me any faster

Eddy said "ride the bike, ride the bike, ride the bike" as training advice. They only make you faster when you are fast is the message. It took awhile to explain that to some tri-folks riding long rides on their aero setup at average 25kph....in a group. By the way... a group of tri-folks is 3, familiar riders. More than that is called Carnage.

 

[SHAD0W93]

I’m just surprised people went from the small advantages or disadvantages a bike can give you to now that’s ridiculous. While your equipment won’t make a bad rider into a good one, similar levels will see a difference if equipment is better for one over the other.

 

[BigCoward]

I’m just surprised people went from the small advantages or disadvantages a bike can give you to now that’s ridiculous. While your equipment won’t make a bad rider into a good one, similar levels will see a difference if equipment is better for one over the other.

But really what is the difference at world tour level? Even the worst teams have bikes that are better, and set up and maintained better than any of you ever have.