Few dinosaurs remembered from the same era because of cyclings obsession with the past tbhAnquetil, Van Looy, Poulidor, Gimondi, Godefroot, Van Springel, Ocana, De Vlaeminck, Fuente, Zoetemelk, Maertens, Thevenet, Moser...
Who the hell is much better opposition than them?!
Looking back at his spring season, there were Pog is actually facing tough competition he doesn't necessarily win. P-N and De Ronde, that's it. Sunday is another proper test though.Exactly, people really have no idea what they are talking about when they say "weak" competition.
Merckx faced a bunch of great riders, as Pog is doing also. They won/have been winning anyway, which more speaks to how great they are and not how "weak" everyone else presumably is. It is not the reality. Any other comment could be said somewhere else in the forum.
They can do a Rocky training montage at the beach on Tenerife, just with 100% less upper body muscle. Add in some shots of them in the gym struggling to do a push up or open a jar, it'll be great.Finally my desire for a high stake homo-erotic cycling story gets answered.
Such shade thrown at the domestiques and lesser gods of the day.You can't say because you can't compare. Back in those days you could be a worldbeater by 1/ not smoking 2/ not drinking 3/ not eating like a pig.
Not at all, they were just fat smoking drunks.Such shade thrown at the domestiques and lesser gods of the day.
LOL@that's it. The only 2 races he entered and didn't win are MSR and E3, which are the ones that fit him the least. Hard to drop everybody on the Poggio, and Van der Poel was just stronger, no shame in that, and E3 with the easy end where it's hard to drop others and 30 or 40 km from the last real difficulty, the Oude Kwaremont.Looking back at his spring season, there were Pog is actually facing tough competition he doesn't necessarily win. P-N and De Ronde, that's it. Sunday is another proper test though.
I especially like Merckx competing with Anquetil cause it's literally less accurate than saying Pogacar competed with Froome.Few dinosaurs remembered from the same era because of cyclings obsession with the past tbh
I get that from Pogacar in general. If WVA or MVDP are the only riders of the big 4, chances are high they win too. When they all compete against each other they don’t win as easily as Pogacar in Amstel, Strade, or Fleche, or Wout in Omloop, Wevelgem, E3 (last year), or Evenepoel in second tier stage racesLOL@that's it. The only 2 races he entered and didn't win are MSR and E3, which are the ones that fit him the least. Hard to drop everybody on the Poggio, and Van der Poel was just stronger, no shame in that, and E3 with the easy end where it's hard to drop others and 30 or 40 km from the last real difficulty, the Oude Kwaremont.
But ok, if that's what you got from Pogacar's spring...
Probably an overstatement, but yeah, routes are obviously very important...Frankly, it’s quite insane that you aren’t maddeningly passionate about routes in general.
Pogi-Monster: Gotta catch 'em all!Tadej Pogacar "Whole Calendar" Slam Watchlist (also considering podiums)
1. Grand Tours:
Tour de France X2 (2020, 2021), 2nd (2022)
Giro de Italia: TBA
Vuelta a España: 3rd (2019)
2. Monuments:
Milano San Remo: 3rd (2023)
Ronde Van Vlaanderen: X (2023)
Paris Roubaix: TBA
Liege Bastogne Liege: X (2021), 3rd (2020)
Giro di Lombardia: X2 (2021,2022)
3. One Week Races:
París Nice: X (2023)
Tirreno-Adriático: X2 (2021, 2022)
Volta a Catalunya: TBA
Itzulia: 3rd (2021)
Tour de Romandie: TBA
Criterium du Dauphine: -
Tour de Suisse: TBA
4. Other Significant Races:
Omloop Het Volk / Het Nieuwsblad: TBA
UAE Tour (sigh): X2 (2021, 2022)
Strade Bianche: X (2022)
E3 Harelbeke: 3rd (2023)
Gent Wevelgem: TBA
Brabantse Pijl: TBA
Amstel Gold Race: X (2023)
Fleche Wallone: X (2023)
GP Plouay: -
San Sebastian: -
Giro dell Emilia: 2nd (2022)
París - Tours: TBA
Olympic Road Race: 3rd (Tokyo 2020 -held in 2021-)
Olympic Time Trial: TBA
World Championship Road Race: -
World Championship Time Trial: -
5. Stage Wins:
Giro de Italia Stage Wins: 0
Tour de France Stage Wins: 9
Vuelta a España Stage Wins: 3
Total GT Stage Wins: 12
Total Pro Wins: 58
Note: "Other Significant Races" is a non-comprehensive list of races outside the well established and common accepted three categories (GT, Monuments, Seven "Historically/Traditional" One Week Races), the aim is not to argue about which are the most relevant races but to keep track of which I would personally consider the most prestigious events regardless of the current official category.
Is the Giro Tour double now more difficult than the Ardennes Triple? Can’t see anyone doing the Giro Tour double ever again
Great graphic! Hope it can be updated after Sunday. It should include a wrestling session before KO as it won't be an easy win for either challenger.
Hmm.., let's see:I especially like Merckx competing with Anquetil cause it's literally less accurate than saying Pogacar competed with Froome.
Oh look, so many 1-2s in big races people care about.Hmm.., let's see:
Manx Trophy 1965
1.Anquetil
2.Merckx
Paris-Nice 1966
1,Anquetil
4.Merckx
Liege-Bastogne-Liege 1966
1.Anquetil
8.Merckx
WC Road Race 1966
2.Anquetil
12.Merckx
GP des Nations 1966
1.Anquetil
3.Merckx
GP Lugano 1966
3.Anquetil
4.Merckx
Lombardia 1966
2.Merckx
4.Anquetil
Fleche Wallonne 1967
1.Merckx
29.Anquetil
Giro d'Italia 1967
3.Anquetil
9.Merckx
Criterium des As 1967
1.Merckx
2.Anquetil
A Travers Lausanne 1967
2.Merckx
7.Anquetil
Trofeo Baracchi 1967
1.Merckx
2.Anquetil
WC Road Race 1968
8.Merckx
11.Anquetil
Paris-Nice 1969
1.Merckx
3.Anquetil
So give me that Pogacar/Froome h2h now...
They faced each other enough times to say they were competing each other.Oh look, so many 1-2s in big races people care about.
So much work to prove my point.
They faced each other once in a GT, and once in a monument.
By that line of reasoning, you may just as well say that Pogi and Rogla haven't been competing against each other. Not truly so.Oh look, so many 1-2s in big races people care about.
So much work to prove my point.
They faced each other once in a GT, and once in a monument.
Always count on Netserk taking things literally when it suits him.By that line of reasoning, you may just as well say that Pogi and Rogla haven't been competing against each other. Not truly so.
When you are in a hole, make it personal.