Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[Lequack]

He also needs to learn to do a Froome / Contador slap

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[bajbar]

Someone must have skipped stage 4 indeed. Though Roglič DID wear a different shirt at the time. That might have been confusing for some! But I think Primož will read what LancesLeftBall wrote and win the TT just for him. We cannot have people unsatisfied!

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

He also needs to learn to do a Froome / Contador slap

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Amateurs.

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[RedheadDane]

He also needs to learn to do a Froome / Contador slap

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Those scenes just made me so angry. The crowds, not the Pogacar hitting the idiot part.

 

[bajbar]

I hope Wout goes all out, and doesn't save himself for Champs Elysées. I think he has as much, maybe more, chance of winning the ITT as winning the final sprint. Plus he could set a benchmark for Primoz and Tom.

Jumbo have a realistic chance of winning all of the last three stages. Stage 19 sprint should favour WvA (if it comes to a sprint). Even after all his work he will still probably be fresher than all the sprinters. The TT should be a Jumbo affar anyway and well, why not win Champs as well while we are at it.

 

[johnymax]

Jumbo have a realistic chance of winning all of the last three stages. Stage 19 sprint should favour WvA (if it comes to a sprint). Even after all his work he will still probably be fresher than all the sprinters. The TT should be a Jumbo affar anyway and well, why not win Champs as well while we are at it.

Then why not win stage 18 too?

 

[md1975]

I have often thought about that. With no stage win should they be the winner. But, the more you think about it you see it would never work. As an example:

The top 2 are separated by 5min going into stage 21. Rider 1 has no stage win but is 5min ahead. Rider 2 has 5 stage wins but in total time is still 5min behind at the end of the race.

How can you say that Rider 1 is not the winner overall? He has rode to 5min ahead of his closest rival. True, if you finish a stage in a group or within "X" distance of another rider you are given the same time. However, the "X" distance or group still has a winner in the one who crosses the line first. This really only matters on single day races and the first stage of a stage race to say who is the 1st leader (or winner in a single day race). Would it be interesting to see any gap be counted as a different time? Maybe, I'm just not sure how they would do it. A guy wins with a time of 5h 5m and 2nd place is 5h 5m and.25s? We can say that you are given the time when your seat (meaning your main body mass) cross the line not the front tire. Again, could be an amazing thing to do but highly difficult.

Back on topic: Either PR or TP should win and both are deserving. Here is a question: What if say Porte destroyed the ITT and won by say 2 seconds? I don't know if PR and TP are as good of TT riders as a Porte for example. Curious if anyone in the top 5 can come even close. Unlikely...but still could happen

 

[johnymax]

Back on topic: Either PR or TP should win and both are deserving. Here is a question: What if say Porte destroyed the ITT and won by say 2 seconds? I don't know if PR and TP are as good of TT riders as a Porte for example. Curious if anyone in the top 5 can come even close. Unlikely...but still could happen

Roglič is a better TT rider than Porte and has been for the last 4 years. I'd say Pogačar and Porte are about equal at the moment.

 

[lenric]

Contador has also won his Giros (well, the "official" victories at least) without winning any stage.

I don't really get why the GC winner shouldn't be the winner if he hadn't won any stage, but whatever.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Good performance today, on the queen stage. Didn't blow up or crack and that is very impressive. Pogačar exceeded all my expectation on this Tour. Now wearing white and polka dots jersey and still not being all that happy about it. Another thing i find impressive is how mature and mentally strong he already is.

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[Logic-is-your-friend]

It's called a "general" classification for a reason. You don't have to win any stage for it. It's simply stupid to even consider. Sure, i get that a stagewin adds some extra shine to the GC victory, but it's just icing on the cake.

 

[Gargamel35]

It's called a "general" classification for a reason. You don't have to win any stage for it. It's simply stupid to even consider. Sure, i get that a stagewin adds some extra shine to the GC victory, but it's just icing on the cake.

And it's even stupid to talk about it in tdF2020, because top 3 have all won stages.

 

[topt]

fun fact; the polka dot jersey race is not yet over; didnt get it before why Pogi was sprinting on top of Glieres; there are points in TT

 

[SafeBet]

Carapaz will take it easy on the flat and go full gas on the climb son it's basically over anyway.

 

[Simurgh]

So well-deserved! The heart of the Tour, the ever-attacking. This man could very well be the heir of Contador. One man riding against an armada. And he succeded in his very first attempt! I am so happy for him.

 

[Ripper]

So well-deserved! The heart of the Tour, the ever-attacking. This man could very well be the heir of Contador. One man riding against an armada. And he succeded in his very first attempt! I am so happy for him.

LOL!!!!!

 

[SafeBet]

I know people won't believe me but this morning I felt this was gonna happen. Thermonuclear ride once again. One of the most thrilling days I've had watching cycling in a long time.

 

[LaFlorecita]

WOW!!!!

 

[KZD]

So well-deserved! The heart of the Tour, the ever-attacking. This man could very well be the heir of Contador. One man riding against an armada. And he succeded in his very first attempt! I am so happy for him.

I think he may be even better than Contador especially in the classics but the style is there

 

[Mayomaniac]

A rather weak team in the mountains, Aru and Formolo dnf, lost time in the crosswinds and still wins the Tour before turning 22, what a rider!

 

[lenric]

speechless

 

[VayaVayaVaya]

I think he may be even better than Contador especially in the classics but the style is there

Yeah this is really just an incomparable performance in the modern era of cycling. He is head and shoulders above anyone at his age and, with 3 stage wins, going against a STACKED team, 1:21 lost in crosswinds, dominant final TT victory, it’s an incredibly impressive victories in recent memory, age aside.

 

[spalco]

Chapeau! A champion today, maybe a great champion soon.

Only just 22, amazing.

Historic achievement in many ways.

 

[Lequack]

He needs a better team to support him! Hopefully UAE get their act together.

 

[Asero831]

Cruelty of the sport. He wants to secure his future and signs a long term contract last year when he should have bet on himself.

He will be losing millions as he is worth 4 times his current salary.

By the time his contract expires, he may not command a million contract anymore.