Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[Tim Cahill]

Poor old Valverde just catches strays everywhere

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Probably patented 12-15 minute attack before the top

He attacked for 15‘25“ on the Grappa, you lose.

 

[Salvarani]

There are 2 guys head and shoulder above the rest when it comes to the Goat discussion. Pogacar is currently sniffing their kneecaps.

I said it is cool if that is your opinion.

Has nothing to do with what I think or say.

 

[Salvarani]

He attacked for 15‘25“ on the Grappa, you lose.

Gotem

 

[Netserk]

He attacked for 15‘25“ on the Grappa, you lose.

Disappointing he couldn't do the last part of the climb 25 seconds faster. Smh.

 

[Salvarani]

Haters so mad, love it.

Pog the GOAT and keeps winning.

Case and point.

 

[Offline]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1794379868790198714

View: https://twitter.com/NaichacaCycling/status/1794379868790198714

 

[Pantani_lives]

9'56"? Big deal! In 1914 Alfonso Calzolari won the Giro by 1h57'26".

 

[Salvarani]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1794379868790198714

View: https://twitter.com/NaichacaCycling/status/1794379868790198714

Legendary!

The GOAT

 

[Peyroteo94]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1794379868790198714

View: https://twitter.com/NaichacaCycling/status/1794379868790198714

Already waiting for those stupid w/kg estimations...

 

[Froome]

Already waiting for those stupid w/kg estimations...

For some reason the riders and the perfomance staff of the teams talk a lot about that, when they talk about GT riders.

 

[Didinho]

 

[hfer07]

Poga to race Criterium du Dauphine in order to "taper" for the Tour de France

 

[Salvarani]

Amazing!

GOAT status confirmed.

 

[Red Rick]

Isn't that the exact same one that said leave the racing to Roglic like a year ago?

 

[Tim Cahill]

Isn't that the exact same one that said leave the racing to Roglic like a year ago?

Roadworks still havent been completed either, sign is still there on the right!!!

 

[Red Rick]

These kids haven't even watched Vino and they're talking about goats.

I watched Nicky win that Japan meme race the other day. Long way to go to become GOAT

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

I watched Nicky win that Japan meme race the other day. Long way to go to become GOAT

His tour 2027 bid will be one for the ages.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Roadworks still havent been completed either, sign is still there on the right!!!

Maybe they should leave the roadwork to Roglič, too.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Incredible race by him, congrats. Most dominant GT in modern era. Now just safely navigating to the finish in Rome (without helping in the sprint!), then a deserved rest and then mission Tour. It's only May but a GT and a monument are checked. A successful season already regardless of what happens in July. Less pressure to win a GT from now on.

TBH I have no idea what will happen at the Tour: is it a part of perfect UAE plan to be in great form in both GTs? Or will Giro efforts have their effect weakening him at some point of the Tour losing the race to Vingo/Rogla/Remco (choose whoever you prefer) as a result?

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Ok now I'm maybe forced to admit that he's almost as good as nibali

 

[Cookster15]

Unless there is a miraculous recovery this year we will not see a duel on equal terms, nor did it happen last year. So far the only time it has happened has been in 2022.

Agree. I am more thinking towards next year.

 

[Peyroteo94]

If we think a little, we know Vingegaard won't be ready for the Tour. He spent 13 days in the hospital (he was even in intensive care) and then some time off the bike (I think 2 weeks). How can he be in peak shape ( or near peak shape) with 9 weeks to prepare the Tour? Even Pogacar can't do it last year with a wrist injury (he broke his hand 9 weeks before the Tour), how can Vingegaard do it with injuries way more severe? Tour is a mirage unfortunately.

 

[Gigs_98]

So obviously Vingegaards preparation for the Tour would be far from ideal, even if he can start. But what I fail to understand is this obsession of comparing his recovery to that of Pogacar last year and using the fact Pogacar got beaten as proof that even Poacars preparation last year wasn't enough to win. That argument just takes it for granted that Pogacar could have been much better without the wrist injury which we have no proof of whatsoever. All things considered I think it's fair to say that he looked better last year than in 2022, so why should I think the injury made a big difference? Maybe a small one, maybe him cracking on Col de la Loze had something to do with bad preparation, but that's pure speculation.

My guess is, Vingegaard will not be good enough to win the Tour, but I'm not certain of that and I'm definitely not certain of it because of some comparison to an injury that left Pogacar in a shape in which he absolutely could have won the Tour. Some people wrote off Contador before the 2014 Vuelta, I'll not make that mistake with Vingegaard a decade later.

 

[Tonton]

Jonas will field a team that can control the race and pace him back if needed. If Jumbo is as strong as we have seen in recent Tours, it will be very hard for Tadej to deliver on the double. What a feat it would be! What an opportunity! He can do it.