Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

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Once in a generation Grand Tour talent

like LeMond, Indurain and Contador
Obviously. But I find it astounding - 2019 everyone thought Bernal will dominate GTs in years to come. Also the Evenepoel talk seems roughly overstated. Pogacar is on another level.
 
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From the current generation(s) there is nobody close to Pogacar in GT talent.

We'll have to wait and see if another young gun comes up and can challenge him. Maybe one within his own team (Ayuso?)
 
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From the current generation(s) there is nobody close to Pogacar in GT talent.

We'll have to wait and see if another young gun comes up and can challenge him. Maybe one within his own team (Ayuso?)
Would be surprised if Ineos don’t manage to create something to fight him within a year or 2. Who and how I don’t know but I can see it happen. (We all know how, they’ll sign Lutsenko and he’ll dominate)
 
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From the current generation(s) there is nobody close to Pogacar in GT talent.

In a mountains dominated GT Bernal will be a challenge. We are yet to see what a well-prepared Evenepoel is capable of in a GT. IMO he'll be an awesome GT-rider (excelling at both TT and mountains). He and Bernal are from the same generation as Pog so potentially many years ahead of them. As things stand Pog is ahead of them all but his generation is abundant with talent.
 
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Obviously. But I find it astounding - 2019 everyone thought Bernal will dominate GTs in years to come. Also the Evenepoel talk seems roughly overstated. Pogacar is on another level as he is.
Well EB already won a GT this year (maybe with SARS-CoV-2 in his lungs!).
 
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And he would totally be blown away like the rest today. Still think Bernal is great but only being able to win GTs Pogcar decides not to win is well, an underwhelming perspective at least...
Maybe or maybe not.
Who's decision was it for EB to do the GdI? By all accounts that was Ineos (so that GT could win another TdF).
I'm sure that we'll get to see them battle in a GT soon (hopefully next year?).
 
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It's actually crazy how in the span of a couple months 2 Slovenians were born who have the potential to be among the greatest all time in their respective sports.
You aren't suggesting Doncic are you? He is amazing, but nothing so far suggests he is MJ/LeBron level (i could see him being considered top 5-10 all time though).
 
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You aren't suggesting Doncic are you? He is amazing, but nothing so far suggests he is MJ/LeBron level (i could see him being considered top 5-10 all time though).
Top 5-10 is among the greatest, no? Obviously MJ and LeBron are on another level. I was also just talking about potential. Pogacar isn't on Merckx' level either, is he?
 
Would be surprised if Ineos don’t manage to create something to fight him within a year or 2. Who and how I don’t know but I can see it happen. (We all know how, they’ll sign Lutsenko and he’ll dominate)

My guess would be Pidcock. Great power to weight ratio and had decent showings against the clock on the youth ranks.

The trend was clear, but unfortunately broken. After Bernal of 97 in 2019 and Pogacar of 98 in 2020 it would be time for the appearance of Pidcock of 99 before Evenepoel of 00 takes over next year.
 
My guess would be Pidcock. Great power to weight ratio and had decent showings against the clock on the youth ranks.

The trend was clear, but unfortunately broken. After Bernal of 97 in 2019 and Pogacar of 98 in 2020 it would be time for the appearance of Pidcock of 99 before Evenepoel of 00 takes over next year.
Some options in my opinion to ineos create something.
Buy padun.
Buy remco evenepoel.
Buy joao almeida.
Buy ayuso.
Buy roglic.
Buy van der poel and make him a gc contender.
Or the best option, buy pogacar.
 
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My guess would be Pidcock. Great power to weight ratio and had decent showings against the clock on the youth ranks.

The trend was clear, but unfortunately broken. After Bernal of 97 in 2019 and Pogacar of 98 in 2020 it would be time for the appearance of Pidcock of 99 before Evenepoel of 00 takes over next year.
Even Pidcock will need to improve a lot.

Pogacar was tremendous, totally next level, he just won the TDF with that ride. Carapaz was excellent today, putting 3 minutes into the rest of the contenders, yet still lost 3 minutes himself.

For me, this stage conjured up memories of the 1998 stage to Les Deux Alpes, Pogacar's ride was that good. I don't even see a fully fit Roglic or Bernal being a real threat to him.
 
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the most important questions:

Will UAE have the cash & the investment to keep him around?
Is INEOS already working the numbers?
 
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