Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[velaso montador]

Del Toro seems to be too raw for the Tour.

based on? He is a extraordinary talent and after the Vuelta it may be a given already time will tell wouldnt be surprised though thats all, think he will become a beast very soon and going to the Tour with Pog will be the best he can gain if he strong enough for that next year but wouldnt be surprised as I said but lets see.

Regardless the team is stacked in that department no worries. They didnt bring riders like Vine and Mcnulty in any GT this year and still dominating easy in mountains their stacked in that department.

 

[Peyroteo94]

based on? He is a extraordinary talent and after the Vuelta it may be a given already time will tell wouldnt be surprised though thats all, think he will become a beast very soon and going to the Tour with Pog will be the best he can gain if he strong enough for that next year but wouldnt be surprised as I said but lets see.

Regardless the team is stacked in that department no worries. They didnt bring riders like Vine and Mcnulty in any GT this year and still dominating easy in mountains their stacked in that department.

Those 2 are not team players.

 

[mariosommelier]

 

[scribers]

Stop playing with my emotions

 

[scribers]

Those 2 are not team players.

This is what mou taught us

 

[Peyroteo94]

Beautiful! My lovely "Sardinha assada com batata cozida"!

 

[Peyroteo94]

based on? He is a extraordinary talent and after the Vuelta it may be a given already time will tell wouldnt be surprised though thats all, think he will become a beast very soon and going to the Tour with Pog will be the best he can gain if he strong enough for that next year but wouldnt be surprised as I said but lets see.

Regardless the team is stacked in that department no worries. They didnt bring riders like Vine and Mcnulty in any GT this year and still dominating easy in mountains their stacked in that department.

He is 20 years old. I think he will play a domestique role in August so I don't believe in a top5.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Riders after the Tour do altitude training? For example, Pogacar will be in Sierra Nevada this month or he will just train in Monaco/France/Italy?

 

[mariosommelier]

Riders after the Tour do altitude training? For example, Pogacar will be in Sierra Nevada this month or he will just train in Monaco/France/Italy?

He better works his ass to win this WC.

And I think he should do the Giro-Tour next year, and aim for the WC in Rwanda, which will have more than 5000m of climbing.

He could be a 2x World Champion by next year, with 6 GTs and 2x Giro-Tour doubles in his resumé.

The Vuelta can wait.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

He better works his ass to win this WC.

And I think he should do the Giro-Tour next year, and aim for the WC in Rwanda, which will have more than 5000m of climbing.

He could be a 2x World Champion by next year, with 6 GTs and 2x Giro-Tour doubles in his resumé.

The Vuelta can wait.

Froomey has had valuable practice in the Tour of Rwanda (hard miles!) so he'll be the favourite next year.

 

[Berniece]

Riders after the Tour do altitude training? For example, Pogacar will be in Sierra Nevada this month or he will just train in Monaco/France/Italy?

I was under the impression that he takes a few weeks off, and then starts training again. I can’t imagine him not doing altitude since it worked so well before.

 

[Peyroteo94]

He better works his ass to win this WC.

And I think he should do the Giro-Tour next year, and aim for the WC in Rwanda, which will have more than 5000m of climbing.

He could be a 2x World Champion by next year, with 6 GTs and 2x Giro-Tour doubles in his resumé.

The Vuelta can wait.

Tour-Vuelta next year. WC is 2/3 weeks after but are you sure, it will be a mountain WC? That would be great since they shut down the zurich classic

 

[Peyroteo94]

I was under the impression that he takes a few weeks off, and then starts training again. I can’t imagine him not doing altitude since it worked so well before.

He never does altitude training before his spring season and he is very successful there

 

[mariosommelier]

Tour-Vuelta next year. WC is 2/3 weeks after but are you sure, it will be a mountain WC? That would be great since they shut down the zurich classic

I am having a hard time in believing he, as the Giro champion, won't defend his title.

About the WC in Rwanda:

A parcours for Tadej Pogačar? Rwanda set to be the most mountainous World Championships in 5 years

The cobbled Kigali Hill will feature on both the men's and women's routes

www.cyclingweekly.com

He should try the Giro-Tour double again and go for the WC again next year.

 

[YavorD]

I am having a hard time in believing he, as the Giro champion, won't defend his title.

He was defending champion in Flanders and he didn't defend his title
I don't think he'll do the Giro next year. I find it more likely yo come back to classics.

 

[Peyroteo94]

I am having a hard time in believing he, as the Giro champion, won't defend his title.

About the WC in Rwanda:

A parcours for Tadej Pogačar? Rwanda set to be the most mountainous World Championships in 5 years

The cobbled Kigali Hill will feature on both the men's and women's routes

www.cyclingweekly.com

He should try the Giro-Tour double again and go for the WC again next year.

5000m of elevation is Pogacar's playground

 

[scribers]

He better works his ass to win this WC.

And I think he should do the Giro-Tour next year, and aim for the WC in Rwanda, which will have more than 5000m of climbing.

He could be a 2x World Champion by next year, with 6 GTs and 2x Giro-Tour doubles in his resumé.

The Vuelta can wait.

He is more interested in monuments than rerunning the Giro/Tour double again. Depending on how hard the Tour is for him next year, he might very well skip the Vuelta again to secure WC good chance to win.

 

[BigCoward]

He said he can only beat who was there, implicating that if Pogacar was there he wouldn’t beat him.

That is not what that means at all.

 

[Peyroteo94]

He is more interested in monuments than rerunning the Giro/Tour double again. Depending on how hard the Tour is for him next year, he might very well skip the Vuelta again to secure WC good chance to win.

He will do Tour-Vuelta for sure and try to win MSR and Flanders again.

 

[Peter von]

He was defending champion in Flanders and he didn't defend his title
I don't think he'll do the Giro next year. I find it more likely yo come back to classics.

I would also usually think Giro-Tour double is a one time thing, especially since he pulled it off.

I think a classics-Tour-worlds+Lombardia schedule is more sustainable or that has at least been the traditional thinking. But Pogi is special, so maybe Giro is just optimal prep for the lad.

 

[Peyroteo94]

I would also usually think Giro-Tour double is a one time thing, especially since he pulled it off.

I think a classics-Tour-worlds+Lombardia schedule is more sustainable or that has at least been the traditional thinking. But Pogi is special, so maybe Giro is just optimal prep for the lad.

Vuelta is a must next year so classics+Tour+Vuelta+WC

 

[velaso montador]

Watching cycling races without Pogacar just dont hit the same. Evenepoel is closest.

But watching cycling without Pogacar now is just like when you got used to watching prime Barcelona 2009-2012 and then having to go back to Dortmund after it just dont hit the same haha the quality is just different. .

 

[velaso montador]

Also its gone a litte while now and I still cant quite believe what we witnessed. I still remember big greats like Froome, Contador try the double and Pogacar just did it which was historic yes but also the way he did it us hard to comprehend.

The memory of Contador and Froome trying and other greats are still fresh its madness the fashion Pogacar did it in.

 

[Lequack]

Found this nice blast from the past, Pogacar when he was still in his conti team, before all the glory. It's great too look back every once in a while. Also in the video you can spot young Roglic, who already signed with LottoNL at that time.
PS: Video has English subtitles, make sure you enable them.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mq7E8ID7Fo

 

[Peter von]

Vuelta is a must

Is it though?

Vuelta is not that big compared to what's already on Pogi's palmares, ticking off all three GTs is nice and all, but it's also not that big of a deal(when you have Pogi's insane Palmares).

I guess it depends a lot how he feels now having recently finished two GTs compared to previous years.

Also its gone a litte while now and I still cant quite believe what we witnessed. I still remember big greats like Froome, Contador try the double and Pogacar just did it which was historic yes but also the way he did it us hard to comprehend.

The memory of Contador and Froome trying and other greats are still fresh its madness the fashion Pogacar did it in.

Indeed, Froome going in half baked to Giro to try and not be overtired for the Tour and all that. Or even before, Simoni, being strongest dude in the Giro, and a total non-factor at the Tour.

Pogi just smashed the Giro and returned even stronger for the Tour, amazing stuff and his season is far from over and I am NOT betting against him for Worlds and Lombardia or any other races he might do before winter.