Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[Kedjan]

His tactic should be:
1. Going all out for 5 km, it doesn't matter if Vingegaard follows you or not. The goal is just put 2 minutes on Matteo.
2. Follow Vingegaard everywhere.

This is interesting, I thought about this. What will he do if Vinge is in his wheel after a hard attack? Will he continue believing Vinge will break eventually? Or will he stop, catch his breath, and launch a new attack. I think he should at least try one time to continue, just to test Vinge out, but it should be on steeper sections where the draft is less. Hautacam has 2-3 kilometers in the middle around 10 %.

 

[scribers]

Covidcar! lol

 

[Peyroteo94]

It seems Sivakov has a stomach problem. That's better than COVID because it isn´t contagious, and it's easier to recover.

Where did you see it? He can still have Covid...
But I hope he gets better in 5 days.

 

[scribers]

This is interesting, I thought about this. What will he do if Vinge is in his wheel after a hard attack? Will he continue believing Vinge will break eventually? Or will he stop, catch his breath, and launch a new attack. I think he should at least try one time to continue, just to test Vinge out, but it should be on steeper sections where the draft is less. Hautacam has 2-3 kilometers in the middle around 10 %.

Assuming Pogi's form is building and not receding, The attack with Vingo on his his wheel should look like the stage earlier in the tour where the elastic nearly snapped on Vingo on a short climb. Once it snaps, he shouldn't be able to roll up on Pogi across a really tough long climb.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Assuming Pogi's form is building and not receding, The attack with Vingo on his his wheel should look like the stage earlier in the tour where the elastic nearly snapped on Vingo on a short climb. Once it snaps, he shouldn't be able to roll up on Pogi across a really tough long climb.

I'm expecting Yates to go crazy for 3 minutes before Pogacar's attack.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

It seems Sivakov has a stomach problem. That's better than COVID because it isn´t contagious, and it's easier to recover.

There are plenty of contagious stomach problems.

 

[Cycling111]

Where did you see it? He can still have Covid...
But I hope he gets better in 5 days.

Some comments on X, but it's not official. Maybe I shouldn't have posted it, considering how reliable the reports about Pogacar's discomfort were

 

[scribers]

They said on the move pogi was on that stupid heavy aero bike today and not his climbing bike? Lol come on!

 

[AmRacer]

They said on the move pogi was on that stupid heavy aero bike today and not his climbing bike? Lol come on!

The climbing bike is for HC mountains.

 

[ashhutch1997]

If Pogacar was lame , Jonas was a "circus worker" I don't want to be too disrespectful.😂 but he really disappointed me. All this stuff a nd he didn't even put the nose in the wind. Pretty embarrassing for such a good rider.

I think Vingegaard is riding pretty smart, consider how backloaded this years TDF is. Look what happed in 2022 when Pog thought he was invincible, of course he's much better now but its still wasted energy doing all these attacks/sprints.

 

[Peyroteo94]

They said on the move pogi was on that stupid heavy aero bike today and not his climbing bike? Lol come on!

Huh?

 

[Cycling111]

Huh?

 

[scribers]

World champs jersey for the hautacam!

 

[scribers]

What the hell was I looking at? I totally missed Toulouse on Wednesday not hautacam. Anyhow. This just means EF in yellow until the end of the day Thursday. Not a bad strategy. I expect the Toulouse stage to be somewhat quiet. Healy in yellow fetching bottles for pogi. UAE recovering in the peloton.

 

[Rou]

I thought he is gonna use the V1 today but when he did his attack I saw the ugly front of the aero bike.
So he considered this stage not challenging enough to use the climbing bike?

 

[Earns1985]

This really has the feel of the early stages of Tour '24 and the Dauphine. Punchy Jonas matching Pogi - Remco winning the TTs. To reverse those final GC standings Jonas is going to need a time machine to take Pogi back 2 years and swap him out for the '23 version.

In the Tour 24 Pogacar could drop Vingegaard already early in the Galibier stage. This year he couldn't drop him until now..

 

[Poursuivant]

What do we think of Wednesday? There’s an 800m climb at 12% with 6km to go but then there is a flat 6km run into the end so you would imagine anyone dropped but close, like MVDP would bring any attackers back.

 

[scribers]

No one going to survive an attack there. The fight continues on hautacam. UAE gets some recovery. Healy doesnt look bad in yellow

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

Pog and Healy after the stage...

 

[Unterlenkerfahrend]

I thought he is gonna use the V1 today but when he did his attack I saw the ugly front of the aero bike.
So he considered this stage not challenging enough to use the climbing bike?

I mean it was a lot of rolling terrain and the majority of climbing was below 7%. A scenario where someone like Remco or Visma would've tried from further out and you'd need to do a lot of high speed riding wasn't totally unllikely. So not exactly surprising why they would opt for the aero bike, especially when the last climb is "only" 3km at 8%.

 

[Peyroteo94]

I thought he is gonna use the V1 today but when he did his attack I saw the ugly front of the aero bike.
So he considered this stage not challenging enough to use the climbing bike?

He is trolling us

 

[hayneplane]

In the Tour 24 Pogacar could drop Vingegaard already early in the Galibier stage. This year he couldn't drop him until now..

There hasn’t been any mountain remotely comparable to Galibier in length and gradient so far this race to make a meaningful comparison.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Hautacam will give us a clear picture. I still think Vingegaard will struggle to follow Pogacar on longer climbs.

 

[Scarponi]

There are plenty of contagious stomach problems.

I’d take Covid any day over some of the stomach bugs I’ve had in past lol

 

[scribers]

Vingo confirms in interview he could not follow Pogi at Dauphenie. Says his condition is better now, but it at least suggests we've seen one's ceiling and not Pogi's.