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Where?tbh, pog did drop vinge easily with the 60-90s accelerations on hilly stages before. Now he did not.
But its vingegaard that needs to make up time and I don't see that happening.
Where?tbh, pog did drop vinge easily with the 60-90s accelerations on hilly stages before. Now he did not.
But its vingegaard that needs to make up time and I don't see that happening.
They did the right thingView: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DMGapsWAwhA/?igsh=MXFsYjl2cHRkcjJqNw==
U could clearly hear wellens asking to close the break and his director which i dont think has a good iq tells him to let the break go. Its unbelievable at times seeing a team like uae having a big budget and still cant hire a good minds in the car
If anything this year I have learned to not overreact.Sure?
Almeida was the only one superior climber to them in this Tour. Narvaez is going to disappear in the high mountains.
Adam has been doing poorly all year. Kuss has been doing poorly for two years, but yesterday he lost less time than Adam, having worked more.
Simon will be better than his brother, and Jorenson too.
Sivakov won't be better than them, and it remains to be seen whether he'll be better than Kuss if he recovers.
Yesterday, Campenaerts had his best performance of the year. Visma always has the best performances from its riders in the Tour.
UAE has the performance it has during the year, Adam and Sivakov in the mountains are not going to improve much.
There was the same vibe when visma were dominating penultimate climb of stage 6 dauphine & comes the final climb and it was narvaez, wellens, pog & vingegaard left & next day it was sivakov who dropped everyone even remco before pogs attack. I think uae team is a bit underestimated this tour & if almeida was in the race we would have seen him, pog & jonas alone in the high mountainsSure?
Almeida was the only one superior climber to them in this Tour. Narvaez is going to disappear in the high mountains.
Adam has been doing poorly all year. Kuss has been doing poorly for two years, but yesterday he lost less time than Adam, having worked more.
Simon will be better than his brother, and Jorenson too.
Sivakov won't be better than them, and it remains to be seen whether he'll be better than Kuss if he recovers.
Yesterday, Campenaerts had his best performance of the year. Visma always has the best performances from its riders in the Tour.
UAE has the performance it has during the year, Adam and Sivakov in the mountains are not going to improve much.
They did the right thing
How?View: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DMGapsWAwhA/?igsh=MXFsYjl2cHRkcjJqNw==
U could clearly hear wellens asking to close the break and his director which i dont think has a good iq tells him to let the break go. Its unbelievable at times seeing a team like uae having a big budget and still cant hire a good minds in the car
Correct.There was the same vibe when visma were dominating penultimate climb of stage 6 dauphine
tbh, pog did drop vinge easily with the 60-90s accelerations on hilly stages before. Now he did not.
But its vingegaard that needs to make up time and I don't see that happening.
To close they would need to burn themselves and Visma would just attack earlier with Matteo. UAE wasn't strong enough yesterday, mainly because Yates is not the same and Sivakov looks way off (probably due to illness).How?
I wonder when will stereotypes change? When will Vingegaard stop being received like a diesel climber when he is super explosive?Never happened in the Tour.
He did drop him at the end of stages on acceleration, but they were not hilly
I don't know. This myth around Vingegaard being way less explosive and vulnerable in punchy stages give me migraines.I wonder when will stereotypes change? When will Vingegaard stop being received like a diesel climber when he is super explosive?
I dont think they burn themselves & i think hearing wellens he could've closed it. They just have to keep an eye on visma getting in the break & if visma wants to attack for 100 kms to get to break then uae just have to mark them but when a break without visma goes they just have to chill & ride easy give them 10 minutes & save energy not like what they did yesterday to ride a hard enough pace with politTo close they would need to burn themselves and Visma would just attack earlier with Matteo. UAE wasn't strong enough yesterday, mainly because Yates is not the same and Sivakov looks way off (probably due to illness).
Ermualde, Itzulia 2021.Give examples, please. Give me a 8-10 min climb where Pog has dropped a healthy Vingegaard.
I'm waiting.
| Rnk | Rider | Team | UCI | Pnt | Time | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Pogačar Tadej | UAE Team Emirates | 50 | 50 | 10″ | 4:04:50 |
| 2 | Roglič Primož | Team Jumbo-Visma | 20 | 30 | 6″ | ,, |
| 3 | Valverde Alejandro | Movistar Team | 8 | 18 | 4″ | 0:05 |
| 4 | Yates Adam | INEOS Grenadiers | 13 | ,, | ||
| 5 | Landa Mikel | Bahrain - Victorious | 10 | ,, | ||
| 6 | Gaudu David | Groupama - FDJ | 7 | 0:08 | ||
| 7 | Knox James | Deceuninck - Quick Step | 4 | 0:16 | ||
| 8 | Vingegaard Jonas | Team Jumbo-Visma | 3 | ,, |
Let's also not forget that he didn't dropee Narvaez and Schachmann in the Giro either. Pogacar has more explosiveness in spring, whereas in GT races in recent years he always loses some of his explosiveness in favor of the climbs.Never happened in the Tour.
He did drop him at the end of stages on acceleration, but they were not hilly
Rick, what are we doing here?Ermualde, Itzulia 2021.
Rnk Rider Team UCI Pnt Time 1 Pogačar Tadej UAE Team Emirates 50 50 10″ 4:04:50 2 Roglič Primož Team Jumbo-Visma 20 30 6″ ,, 3 Valverde Alejandro Movistar Team 8 18 4″ 0:05 4 Yates Adam INEOS Grenadiers 13 ,, 5 Landa Mikel Bahrain - Victorious 10 ,, 6 Gaudu David Groupama - FDJ 7 0:08 7 Knox James Deceuninck - Quick Step 4 0:16 8 Vingegaard Jonas Team Jumbo-Visma 3 ,,
I hope this is a joke ehehehErmualde, Itzulia 2021.
Rnk Rider Team UCI Pnt Time 1 Pogačar Tadej UAE Team Emirates 50 50 10″ 4:04:50 2 Roglič Primož Team Jumbo-Visma 20 30 6″ ,, 3 Valverde Alejandro Movistar Team 8 18 4″ 0:05 4 Yates Adam INEOS Grenadiers 13 ,, 5 Landa Mikel Bahrain - Victorious 10 ,, 6 Gaudu David Groupama - FDJ 7 0:08 7 Knox James Deceuninck - Quick Step 4 0:16 8 Vingegaard Jonas Team Jumbo-Visma 3 ,,
Your favourite rider from Andalucia is third behind the slovenians. Not bad, eh?I hope this is a joke eheheh
Wellens and Narvaez are really strong but Yates and Sivakov are not so Wellens would just burn his teammates even more in rolling terrain before the climbs where Yates (for example) is supposed to shine and he isn't...I dont think they burn themselves & i think hearing wellens he could've closed it. They just have to keep an eye on visma getting in the break & if visma wants to attack for 100 kms to get to break then uae just have to mark them but when a break without visma goes they just have to chill & ride easy give them 10 minutes & save energy not like what they did yesterday to ride a hard enough pace with polit
Thou asketh.Rick, what are we doing here?
We are going in prehistoric times when the Murcian mummy (aka Valverde) was racing?
We are going in times when Vingegaard was an adolescent?
What are we doing?
The great Mr. Knox was beating this version of Vingegaard.
Come on now.
Seriously, even Landa beat Vingegaard and he is not explosive at all.You favourite rider from Andalucia is third behind the slovenians. Not bad, eh?
I don't know. This myth around Vingegaard being way less explosive and vulnerable in punchy stages give me migraines.
Dauphiné was 4 weeks ago and Pogacar just smoked Vingegaard in the high mountains, and this after a strong performance from Vingegaard in the TT and hilly stage.
Pogacar was cooked there. In a normal sprint, Pogacar would beat Vingegaard.Jonas could be winning some of these sprints with Pogi if he went first - Le Lorian last year Tadej never got to him.
Are u saying while trying to control the break wellens would have dropped yates in the process? Yesterday my eyes showed me a good yates who was there with pog when benoot & kuss were going bananasWellens and Narvaez are really strong but Yates and Sivakov are not so Wellens would just burn his teammates even more in rolling terrain before the climbs where Yates (for example) is supposed to shine and he isn't...
Vingegaard is dropped in any climb outside the Tour (I don't know about June too) against Pogacar. But in the Tour, tell me a hill where Pogacar dropped Vingegaard. He didn't in 2023 (Basque Country) and he didn't in 2022 (for example Mende).@Rou
You have several examples in Tirreno or Paris-Nice, Tour 2021. But even in the 2023 Tour, with Pogacar with a worse preparation , he droppe him in three stages. That's why Combloux was so surprising, because Pogacar wasn't being inferior to him.
In fact, outside of the Tour, Vingegaard only beat Pogacar in Itzulia 2021 because the useless UAE car made him McNulty's domestique.
Vingegaard is very Armstrong-like in that sense. So much so that they call Pogacar TikTok, but it's Vingegaard the most similar rider to Armstrong, who has never been better than Pogacar outside of the Tour and who increases his performance in the Tour. It's a bit similar to cycling from that era, with Ferrari's method of performing much better in the Tour.
I'm not saying this for clinical reasons; it's just the way it is. Vingegaard hasn't won a single race against Pogacar outside of the Tour. He's only finished ahead, with Pogacar serving as McNulty's domestique, due to an incomprehensible decision by the UAE. In the others he has been widely surpassed by Pogacar.
I'm not saying dropped (I don't know) but definitely would tire him more than Matteo for example.Are u saying while trying to control the break wellens would have dropped yates in the process? Yesterday my eyes showed me a good yates who was there with pog when benoot & kuss were going bananas
