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Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

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If you don't know if there is a difference it's really stupid to just guess AND use that as an argument as why they are faster now. Things like "the bikes now are better because we have 25 years more of technical evolution" would make sense. Specifically pointing out one factor (weight) when he apparently doesn't know what he's talking about makes him look a bit stupid.
I really doubt he thinks that much about it before a podcast like this. I don't think it ever occurred to him that these remarks will be scrutinized on a cycling forum.
 
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lol its hilarius listening denial.pog is better than remco in every type of terain,outside of pure flat.even in time trail,pog is better in every type other than flat.he just toyed with him in tour on hily course,lmao.if time trails would be on hilly,mountains or descent pog beats him nine times out of ten.even on flat pog was way better than remco this year.pog attacked more times in one stage on tour,than remco did in whole tour.those 2 attacks were weak [[deleted]] and pog would close that olympics attack on one leg.lets be serius.even vdp attack was too much for remco and pog would laugh at that attack.
On last TT, he mostly toyed with Remco because he knew the course by heart since he lives right next to it.
 
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If debating or discussion is pointless in a discussion thread, then surely it's also pointless to point out how pointless it is. Carrying along despite that and still pointing out the pointlessness of debate is a performative contradiction.

I suppose it's no different to yelling in ALL CAPS THAT THE REST OF YOU SCHMUCKS BETTER STFU!
 
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So how is Teddy's vacation? Refreshed for a last minute Vuelta entry? Imagine the faces of Almeida, Landa and co then!

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They signed Vermeersch and Narvaez for classics but zero riders to help Pogacar in the mountains. Ayuso and Almeida won't be in the Tour next year so he will not have a great support in the mountains compared to Visma.
Pogacar
Yates
Politt
Wellens
Soler
Bjerg
Sivakov
They need a stellar mountain domestique to make this team competitive with Visma.
 
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Yes,they need to make achoice regarding ayuso and who will be in his place.ideally another strong climber.its funny,cause in ayuso place/role you would need guy like kuss.elite climber,who is willing to sacrifice himself.
 
They signed Vermeersch and Narvaez for classics but zero riders to help Pogacar in the mountains. Ayuso and Almeida won't be in the Tour next year so he will not have a great support in the mountains compared to Visma.
Pogacar
Yates
Politt
Wellens
Soler
Bjerg
Sivakov
They need a stellar mountain domestique to make this team competitive with Visma.
Del Toro?
 
I think it’s a big pity that Pog wasn’t in Paris. I hope the Slovenian federation realizes they made a big mistake not selecting his gf to the Olympic squad, given she was ranked #1 in the country. I have no doubt that Tadej would have battled for gold in both races.

I hope that in 4 years time he’s in LA and winning gold. By that year, we could be talking about him as the GOAT.
 
Do you think Del Toro is prepared to do the Tour? I think Giro is a better option for him but we have to see what he can do in the Vuelta this year. Visma will have a lot of power even without WVA. Yeah, I believe WVA will do the Giro next year but Matteo, Kuss and Yates in the mountains is just incredible.
Well In recent years we have seen Vingegaard, Bernal and Pogacar all debut in the Vuelta and then go on to finish 1st or 2nd in the Tour the season after.

Del Toro has a huge amount of talent and I would not entirely rule out him winning La Vuelta this year.
 
They signed Vermeersch and Narvaez for classics but zero riders to help Pogacar in the mountains. Ayuso and Almeida won't be in the Tour next year so he will not have a great support in the mountains compared to Visma.
Pogacar
Yates
Politt
Wellens
Soler
Bjerg
Sivakov
They need a stellar mountain domestique to make this team competitive with Visma.
Almeida would ride for pogi again and a top 5 finish or better
 
They signed Vermeersch and Narvaez for classics but zero riders to help Pogacar in the mountains.
Theres no team in the world which are as stacked as UAE when it comes to elite mountain doms.

Even if Almeida get GC role in Giro he can ride dom in the Tour and if not they can bring in Mcnulty which is good and Vine is very good if he can stay on the bike, the depth is second to none. And noone is better than Yates wouldnt be out of the world that Del Toro improves even more next year with one year older and if Ayuso leaves and and it dont work out they will replace him with a good climber there is litearlly zero worries about mountain help for Pogacar no team is close there and its the Tour, riders like Politt can thin the group down to 20 man anyway..

I also actually believe Del Toro which is already good will become a beast very soon. Zero worries and expect if Ayuso messy situation if he leaves they will get a elite climber and if not he will get in line.
 
Del Toro seems to be too raw for the Tour.
based on? He is a extraordinary talent and after the Vuelta it may be a given already time will tell wouldnt be surprised though thats all, think he will become a beast very soon and going to the Tour with Pog will be the best he can gain if he strong enough for that next year but wouldnt be surprised as I said but lets see.

Regardless the team is stacked in that department no worries. They didnt bring riders like Vine and Mcnulty in any GT this year and still dominating easy in mountains their stacked in that department.
 
based on? He is a extraordinary talent and after the Vuelta it may be a given already time will tell wouldnt be surprised though thats all, think he will become a beast very soon and going to the Tour with Pog will be the best he can gain if he strong enough for that next year but wouldnt be surprised as I said but lets see.

Regardless the team is stacked in that department no worries. They didnt bring riders like Vine and Mcnulty in any GT this year and still dominating easy in mountains their stacked in that department.
Those 2 are not team players.
 
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