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Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

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It was one year ago this time the forum was still riled up about the juggernaut jumbo visma whose only competition was from within. This hot debate would go into December (and beyond) when it was announced Pogi would to ride the giro (to avoid coming up empty again for a GT win)

We were so innocent in this thread.

But the ghost of Christmas future @mou knew. Pogis team was stirring in the darkest days of winter. Sending mou forth to warn us legends nicely, things were about to profoundly change in the cycling landscape.
 
It was one year ago this time the forum was still riled up about the juggernaut jumbo visma whose only competition was from within. This hot debate would go into December (and beyond) when it was announced Pogi would to ride the giro (to avoid coming up empty again for a GT win)

We were so innocent in this thread.

But the ghost of Christmas future @mou knew. Pogis team was stirring in the darkest days of winter. Sending mou forth to warn us legends nicely, things were about to profoundly change in the cycling landscape.
Can't wait for the first duel between Pogi and Vingo.
And Pogi in Flanders against MVP, incredible.
 
It was one year ago this time the forum was still riled up about the juggernaut jumbo visma whose only competition was from within. This hot debate would go into December (and beyond) when it was announced Pogi would to ride the giro (to avoid coming up empty again for a GT win)

We were so innocent in this thread.

But the ghost of Christmas future @mou knew. Pogis team was stirring in the darkest days of winter. Sending mou forth to warn us legends nicely, things were about to profoundly change in the cycling landscape.
Beautifully written and a massive shoutout to @mou for calling every step of the way correctly.

What a rider and what a season.

Real campionissimo.

THE GOAT OF CYCLING

TADEJ POGACAR
 
Beautifully written and a massive shoutout to @mou for calling every step of the way correctly.

What a rider and what a season.

Real campionissimo.

THE GOAT OF CYCLING

TADEJ POGACAR
He really called it down to the wire didnt he. Funny to think about now that weve seen Pogacar do what he has in that fashion which is rather still almost unbelivable after having watched it.
 
I was there watching on that mountain that day. Beatiful. I really recommend anyone if you consider going to a race to watch a race in Italy, it is something else, pashion,electric.

View: https://youtu.be/-dZT3-7PJfQ?si=5U5RI9FH12AEjdxK

Me too. I combined hiking in the Biellese Alps with watching the race on that day. I was about 2 km from the Oropa finish and witnessed the first solo ride of his legendary Giro+Tour+WC triple.
 
OK, I got it. Bulk up during the winter with weights and sprint training. Take a tired MVDP to the line at MSR and beat him. Then do PR.
Valid point! Idk if he should bulk up but mvdps chances at MSR massively depend on philipsens presence in the race otherwise its a done deal for pogi. If pogi opens the race from cipressa and mvdp somehow hang on to him then he will work with him afterwards as philipsen isn't in the race which then backfires & gets him dropped by pog on poggio. Idk but the way i saw pog at the worlds, he could sustain 7w/kg for an hour and half😬
 
@mou is super bullish on pogi again for the giro in 2025. Thinks it’s the best prep and path for pogi for the tour.
Can we take a moment and assume @mou has been shut off from internal details? He not exactly the best spokesperson lol. It’ll be interesting to see if he can again have a predictive insight into pogis calendar before everyone else. So far he’s indicated strade, suggestive of Flanders, keeps going on with the giro, less indicative of the vuelta, I think we all know pogi will target worlds and Lombardia again.
 
@mou is super bullish on pogi again for the giro in 2025. Thinks it’s the best prep and path for pogi for the tour.
Can we take a moment and assume @mou has been shut off from internal details? He not exactly the best spokesperson lol. It’ll be interesting to see if he can again have a predictive insight into pogis calendar before everyone else. So far he’s indicated strade, suggestive of Flanders, keeps going on with the giro, less indicative of the vuelta, I think we all know pogi will target worlds and Lombardia again.
I don't believe Pogi will race the Giro. I think he wants to race Flanders again
 
Valid point! Idk if he should bulk up but mvdps chances at MSR massively depend on philipsens presence in the race otherwise its a done deal for pogi. If pogi opens the race from cipressa and mvdp somehow hang on to him then he will work with him afterwards as philipsen isn't in the race which then backfires & gets him dropped by pog on poggio. Idk but the way i saw pog at the worlds, he could sustain 7w/kg for an hour and half😬
That's impossible.
 
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Same.

When will he make his PR debut? 2025 or 2026? Later?
@mou had said last winter not before 2026 and that was a maybe. More recently he has suggested earliest 2027. Not sure what the long term strategy requires for him to be competitive, if at all. P-R is already has to be on Pogi's target list, and it is a little telling he never speaks of it. Some suggest here it would require additional weight, but I am not so certain of that as the engine is there.
 
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@mou had said last winter not before 2026 and that was a maybe. More recently he has suggested earliest 2027. Not sure what the long term strategy requires for him to be competitive, if at all. P-R is already has to be on Pogi's target list, and it is a little telling he never speaks of it. Some suggest here it would require additional weight, but I am not so certain of that as the engine is there.
Pogi must win everything else before he tries PR.
 
@mou is super bullish on pogi again for the giro in 2025. Thinks it’s the best prep and path for pogi for the tour.
Can we take a moment and assume @mou has been shut off from internal details? He not exactly the best spokesperson lol. It’ll be interesting to see if he can again have a predictive insight into pogis calendar before everyone else. So far he’s indicated strade, suggestive of Flanders, keeps going on with the giro, less indicative of the vuelta, I think we all know pogi will target worlds and Lombardia again.
Problem with mou is he miss his prediction , he told us 6,5w/kg for 30 min when in reality it was 6,9w/kg for 40min. He knows something but not a lot like we used to think. Nobody predict that Pogi will become the greatest climber of all time in 2024.
 
Problem with mou is he miss his prediction , he told us 6,5w/kg for 30 min when in reality it was 6,9w/kg for 40min. He knows something but not a lot like we used to think. Nobody predict that Pogi will become the greatest climber of all time in 2024.
He missed pogis weight by .5-1 kg for the tour. But he did these projections months before they happened.