Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[Peyroteo94]

They probably want to see how the classics goes and how he feels before making a commitment.

Nothing wrong with getting some practice in the meantime. He also done well in the Tour stages that has included cobbles. He will definitely try to go for it in the future.

Yes, a little bit like the Vuelta in previous years. He was supposed to ride the Vuelta in 2022 but he didn't race it. I think he will race PR if everything goes according the plan. He would not waste time if PR wasn't in his bucket list this year.

 

[AmRacer]

Yes, a little bit like the Vuelta in previous years. He was supposed to ride the Vuelta in 2022 but he didn't race it. I think he will race PR if everything goes according the plan. He would not waste time if PR wasn't in his bucket list this year.

If he finally wins MSR...

 

[Berniece]

Not exactly the same but it was similar. People were talking about Pogacar being able (or maybe not) to follow both Vans. Guess what, he almost dropped MVP in Paterberg. Pogacar is from another planet, don't compare him with MVP or WVA.

You clearly know better than Pogacar himself who said he needs to train differently and weigh a bit more to really be a contender for Roubaix. Writing things like that is why I barely take you seriously. This echo chamber isn't helping you think logically.

And sure, Pogacar is from another planet, he has never lost a monument, classic or WC against MVDP or WVA. Oh wait...

 

[Krzysztof_O]

You clearly know better than Pogacar himself who said he needs to train differently and weigh a bit more to really be a contender for Roubaix. Writing things like that is why I barely take you seriously. This echo chamber isn't helping you think logically.

And sure, Pogacar is from another planet, he has never lost a monument, classic or WC against MVDP or WVA. Oh wait...

Surely a bit more mass and power would help Pogacar in PR but I think the biggest problem is that Vans are faster than him and there are no hills for him to beat them before. He would have to rely on some luck (it can happen in PR of course). I definitely don't think he would be crushed though: he has an awesome engine and after some finetuning he would be a force to reckon with in PR.

 

[Peyroteo94]

You clearly know better than Pogacar himself who said he needs to train differently and weigh a bit more to really be a contender for Roubaix. Writing things like that is why I barely take you seriously. This echo chamber isn't helping you think logically.

And sure, Pogacar is from another planet, he has never lost a monument, classic or WC against MVDP or WVA. Oh wait...

It is better to take people seriously when they say that it would be a massive surprise if Pogacar won WC with a 50 km solo. Didn't you say you would never underestimate and underappreciate Pogacar if he did a 50 km solo? You don't need to answer me, you can just ignore me.
Have a nice day.

 

[hayneplane]

I don't know if he will win with a 90 seconds gap. Neither of UAE tour's climbs produced big gaps. Jebel Jais is normally an uphill sprint so he needs to gain almost a minute in Jebel Hafeet

He should take both stage wins which will be 20 bonus seconds or a minimum of 8 seconds if the same rider finishes second both times.

Then it would only need 40-50 seconds on Jebel Hafeet which has happened before against better riders than he is due to face this year.

 

[snipeheem]

Good thing he’s not actually going for Roubaix in this shape, he would be destroyed by WVA and MVDP

He would also be destroyed by your boy Remco, the greatest talent ever.

 

[Berniece]

It is better to take people seriously when they say that it would be a massive surprise if Pogacar won WC with a 50 km solo. Didn't you say you would never underestimate and underappreciate Pogacar if he did a 50 km solo? You don't need to answer me, you can just ignore me.
Have a nice day.

And didn't I say I was very impressed after it? That doesn't mean I don't listen to the rider himself.

 

[Peyroteo94]

And didn't I say I was very impressed after it? That doesn't mean I don't listen to the rider himself.

Yes but this doesn't change the fact you are always seizing any opportunity to take a dig on Pogacar. You are doing this every single time. I also don't think he has what it takes (right now) to win PR, at least against MVP or WVA but I'm not saying he will get destroyed and it is obvious he would be competitive at least. We are probably talking about the best rider since Merckx so every indicator from the past suggest Pogi will not be "destroyed".
Can't you just enjoy a rider like Pogi (GT rider and a 66 kg rider) who tries to ride the PR in order to win (even if he fails) and give us more entertainment and more suspense before the race? You should applaud as a cycling fan to see a GT rider aiming for other races and not doing a traditional program like LA or Froome. Instead of that, you choose to be a hater and take another opportunity to take a dig on a fantastic rider who only wants to give us entertainment in every single race he aims.
You continue to have this inferiority complex about Pogacar, because your beloved and favourite rider was supposed to be what Pogacar is. Try to enjoy cycling instead of cyclists. You will be happier. I love Pogi but I know PR can hurt his chances in the Tour and Ardennes but I still want to see him in Roubaix (even if his chances are very slim) because cycling needs battles between Pogi, MVP and WVA.

 

[Berniece]

Yes but this doesn't change the fact you are always seizing any opportunity you have to take a dig on Pogacar. You are doing this every single time. I also don't think he has what it takes (right now) to win PR, at least against MVP or WVA but I'm not saying he will get destroyed and it is obvious he would be competitive at least. We are probably talking about the best rider since Merckx so every indicator from the past suggest Pogi will not be "destroyed".
Can't you just enjoy a rider like Pogi (GT rider and a 66 kg rider) who tries to ride the PR in order to win (even if he fails) and give us more entertainment and more suspense before the race. You should applaud as a cycling fan to see a GT rider aiming for other races and not doing a traditional program like LA or Froome. Instead of that, you choose to be a hater and take another opportunity to take a dig on a fantastic rider who only wants to give us entertainment in every single race he aims.
You continue to have this inferiority complex about Pogacar, because your beloved and favourite rider was supposed to be what Pogacar is. Try to enjoy cycling instead of cyclists. You will be happier. I love Pogi but I know PR can hurt his chances in the Tour and Ardennes but I still want to see him in Roubaix (even if his chances are very slim) because cycling needs battles between Pogi, MVP and WVA.

I stopped reading after the first sentence. Here's my list of posts I made. Check how much I discussed Pogacar in the past 6 months.

Berniece

forum.cyclingnews.com

I barely talk about him, I don't care.

 

[Peyroteo94]

I stopped reading after the first sentence. Here's my list of posts I made. Check how much I discussed Pogacar in the past 6 months.

Berniece

forum.cyclingnews.com

I barely talk about him, I don't care.

Last Pogacar's race was 4 months ago so nothing to discuss. In October he destroyed everyone, hard to mock a rider when he is winning with 3 minutes advantage. So your last dig was obvious 5 months ago. It is stupid to discuss this, this doesn't add nothing to the forum.

 

[scribers]

Good luck participating in any of this and not getting a little vacation.

The boss rides again soon so gonna look forward

 

[Rou]

What I'm interested in is Pogacar's performance in the UAE Tour and not all of this blablabla about Paris-Roubaix. We were told that Pog 2025 is stronger than 2024 so I expect these two results from him:
1. To win the ITT or finish maximum 5 secs behind the winner.
2. To beat the record of Adam Yates on Jebel Hafeet by at least 20 seconds.
Let's see if he has improved or Mou and the posters are delusional.

 

[Netserk]

It is better to take people seriously when they say that it would be a massive surprise if Pogacar won WC with a 50 km solo. Didn't you say you would never underestimate and underappreciate Pogacar if he did a 50 km solo? You don't need to answer me, you can just ignore me.
Have a nice day.

The exact quote was:

If neither MVDP or Evenepoel crashes, and Pogacar does a 50km solo and wins, I'll never diminish his performances anymore.

 

[Netserk]

What I'm interested in is Pogacar's performance in the UAE Tour and not all of this blablabla about Paris-Roubaix. We were told that Pog 2025 is stronger than 2024 so I expect these two results from him:
1. To win the ITT or finish maximum 5 secs behind the winner.
2. To beat the record of Adam Yates on Jebel Hafeet by at least 20 seconds.
Let's see if he has improved or Mou and the posters are delusional.

I expect a 10 km solo on Jebel Jais, like Rubio did 2 years ago.

 

[Rou]

I expect a 10 km solo on Jebel Jais, like Rubio did 2 years ago.

Jonas and Tadej are fully capable of doing a solo on Jais against the GC group. However I think that Pogacar will just wait for the sprint.

 

[Peyroteo94]

What I'm interested in is Pogacar's performance in the UAE Tour and not all of this blablabla about Paris-Roubaix. We were told that Pog 2025 is stronger than 2024 so I expect these two results from him:
1. To win the ITT or finish maximum 5 secs behind the winner.
2. To beat the record of Adam Yates on Jebel Hafeet by at least 20 seconds.
Let's see if he has improved or Mou and the posters are delusional.

I think Pogacar improved a lot last year but his TT wasn't better (at least significantly better) compared to previous years. So I don't think we can assess his level based on his TT performance. On the other hand, I am expecting him to destroy Jebel Hafeet with more than a 40 seconds gap to Yates's record.

 

[iBanesto]

Philipsen's comment.

View: https://youtube.com/shorts/JFmoUUqFyRY?si=TvRmR0AA1evoNgxz

 

[hayneplane]

I expect a 10 km solo on Jebel Jais, like Rubio did 2 years ago.

I think it’s more likely he will use that climb to test his 2 minute power and go in the last 1250 metres.

 

[Shortcut]

What I'm interested in is Pogacar's performance in the UAE Tour and not all of this blablabla about Paris-Roubaix. We were told that Pog 2025 is stronger than 2024 so I expect these two results from him:
1. To win the ITT or finish maximum 5 secs behind the winner.
2. To beat the record of Adam Yates on Jebel Hafeet by at least 20 seconds.
Let's see if he has improved or Mou and the posters are delusional.

Why delusional thought? UAE Tour is probably only stage race this year where he can go easy and try something new. I don't believe he is now in his top shape. At least he shouldn't be.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Why delusional thought? UAE Tour is probably only stage race this year where he can go easy and try something new. I don't believe he is now in his top shape. At least he shouldn't be.

He is not in top shape for sure but Pogacar at 80% is better than everyone else (excluding 2 or 3 riders).

 

[Shortcut]

No I don't think 80% is enough. Bad version/form/shape we see from riders its still around 90%. 1 % is really big for every rider even for Pogi. Also i think, he needs to try something else on races like this one where he has nothing to lose and not going solo for 50km, because every time last year someone didn't lost touch with him after he attacked, he lost. MSR, Quebec, Giro 1 Stage, TdF 11 stage.

 

[scribers]

Philipsen's comment.

View: https://youtube.com/shorts/JFmoUUqFyRY?si=TvRmR0AA1evoNgxz

Pogi has rode P-R before and finished behind philipsen.

 

[James M]

Jonas and Tadej are fully capable of doing a solo on Jais against the GC group. However I think that Pogacar will just wait for the sprint.

really you think? Like last year where he rode solo and distances vingagaard every time he wanted on whatever mountain he wanted with ease even. I agree with you, maybe he can distance the other GC guys at Jais, but lets see gonne be a nailbiter for sure.

I expect a 10 km solo on Jebel Jais, like Rubio did 2 years ago.

More likely, hes not knowned for riding conservatively, would be high odds if he started now. That being said I suspect his form can be a slower ramp up than last year this time of the year duo to his program (remains to be seen) but his adhd racing style wont change for that, there wont be any sprint at Jebels jais.

 

[Miss Violet Smith]

I don't even care if he wins. I look forward to seeing him in the spring classics and I wish for five monuments and the Vuelta!