Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[Peyroteo94]

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Well looks like Pogi at Roubaix this year is almost set.

Marvelous! Spring classics will be magical this season

 

[assisting]

Fernando Pessoa is the best writer ever. I invite everyone to read his poems. He was fluent in English too.

I don't know enough about Literature to be positive about the first statement. But I wholeheartedly agree with the second one and for me he is definitely up there at the very top. I discovered "The book of disquiet" by accident and it was a truly elevating experience.

 

[Unchained]

In 10 years time, Pogi will still be doing MSR and trying to win it. It will be his nemesis and long into old age he'll still be going on about how he should and could have won, but ....

Do you think that at 36 years old Pog will still ask for haircut so his helmet has a fluff coming out?
Do you think that his depth will be less in races of @200k?
And do you think that a schedule of racing everything, talk about doing all grand tours will still be entertained at 36?
I personally think that Pogacar will have a tattoo of the Poggio on his body before his 30 birthday!!
Pog Poggio!!!!

 

[Krzysztof_O]

In 10 years time, Pogi will still be doing MSR and trying to win it. It will be his nemesis and long into old age he'll still be going on about how he should and could have won, but ....

In those 10 years Pogi will test all possible methods of attack: first Cipressa and if this doesn't work he will try a breakaway 300 km from the line.

 

[Peyroteo94]

I don't know enough about Literature to be positive about the first statement. But I wholeheartedly agree with the second one and for me he is definitely up there at the very top. I discovered "The book of disquiet" by accident and it was a truly elevating experience.

The amount of poems he wrote (himself and his heteronyms) in such a short time is just mind blowing. Just a genius!
But his best IMHO is "A Mensagem".

 

[Red Rick]

How long before we get Fabrizio Romano live updates on Pogacar to Roubaix?

Like what's the uncertainty about, is he angling for a bag of money to start?

 

[Sciatic]

He just needs to try a different approach. Don't think he can drop everyone on Poggio, try to go from Cipressa, they don't expect it.

It's like 40 km from his home to San Remo. He can go there regularly. Let's see if he can finally get this monkey off his back. MSR could be the hardest race to win in his career.

It’s not much of a monkey on back—maybe just a Pygmy marmoset. It’s not a race he’s favored in and is the biggest crapshoot of a race even for favorites, so with all his splendid achievements this would not much of a burden. If a colloquialism is needed I would go with “get off the schneid” or “break the duck.”

 

[Red Rick]

I really think the thing to try is clog up the entrance to the Poggio with an 8 man train and just blast it from there.

 

[Salvarani]

It’s not much of a monkey on back—maybe just a Pygmy marmoset. It’s not a race he’s favored in and is the biggest crapshoot of a race even for favorites, so with all his splendid achievements this would not much of a burden. If a colloquialism is needed I would go with “get off the schneid” or “break the duck.”

It would be a great achievement and a race he would just love to win, I reckon.

He can do it if stars align.

Just think he finds it really exciting and fun. A great challenge for him and something that wont come easy, but he wants it. I think he enjoys that as well. It is great motivation.

 

[Peyroteo94]

I really think the thing to try is clog up the entrance to the Poggio with an 8 man train and just blast it from there.

Why not do the same in Cipressa?

 

[Sciatic]

It would be a great achievement and a race he would just love to win, I reckon.

He can do it if stars align.

Just think he finds it really exciting and fun. A great challenge for him and something that wont come easy, but he wants it. I think he enjoys that as well. It is great motivation.

I agree totally

 

[Red Rick]

Why not do the same in Cipressa?

Hard to solo a valley.

If you're gonna go nuts as a team, I actually think Capo Berta may be better than Cipressa.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Hard to solo a valley.

If you're gonna go nuts as a team, I actually think Capo Berta may be better than Cipressa.

There is also a 10 km valley between Berta and Cipressa

 

[Peyroteo94]

I have a strange feeling about a UAE sweep in SB. Pogi going early with Wellens and Del Toro just cruising behind.

 

[Rob5091]

In 10 years time, Pogi will still be doing MSR and trying to win it. It will be his nemesis and long into old age he'll still be going on about how he should and could have won, but ....

I'm going to have to start copyrighting my posts -
https://velo.outsideonline.com/road...milan-san-remo-is-tougher-than-paris-roubaix/

The Monument Pogačar May Never Win:​

 

[Peyroteo94]

I'm going to have to start copyrighting my posts -
https://velo.outsideonline.com/road...milan-san-remo-is-tougher-than-paris-roubaix/

Even PR will be very difficult for him

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Even PR will be very difficult for him

ATM we don't know which is more difficult as there has been no PR try. In MSR Pog has no x-factor over his rivals: some of them are faster, some of them descend better and even uphill one rival (MVP) can match him at least. Plus there'll be no surprise factor: everybody is watching him all the time and he has zero room to fly under the radar. Maybe a perfect nuking of Poggio from the very bottom by the whole super-strong team is the way, as @Red Rick said. But Cipressa is on the cards soon methinks.

 

[Peyroteo94]

ATM we don't know which is more difficult as there has been no PR try. In MSR Pog has no x-factor over his rivals: some of them are faster, some of them descend better and even uphill one rival (MVP) can match him at least. Plus there'll be no surprise factor: everybody is watching him all the time and he has zero room to fly under the radar. Maybe a perfect nuking of Poggio from the very bottom by the whole super-strong team is the way, as @Red Rick said. But Cipressa is on the cards soon methinks.

I think he will try in Cipressa this time with a train of 4 riders. Other 3 will control the break and put also a hard pace before Cipressa (Capos).

 

[Peyroteo94]

There are only 2 or 3 riders able to follow Pogacar in Poggio.

 

[tobydawq]

I really think the thing to try is clog up the entrance to the Poggio with an 8 man train and just blast it from there.

Who would be the eighth man? Bettiol?

 

[Peyroteo94]

'I love the Classics, they're pure adrenaline' – Tadej Pogačar kicks off spring campaign aiming for Strade Bianche treble

'We have to be realistic, there's nothing we can do' says Alberto Bettiol, who admits the peloton will be racing for second in Siena

www.cyclingnews.com

 

[CyclistAbi]

Time for first Laureus.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

There are only 2 or 3 riders able to follow Pogacar in Poggio.

The problem is that the only rider capable of matching/exceeding Pogs uphill acceleration is a better descender and sprinter (Mvp). Plus there are a few guys both very fast and very good descenders who can catch Pog and beat him at the end. MSR is really a difficult puzzle but Lets see how an improved (since last summer) version of Pog handles it. Demolishing Poggio once more or Cipressa?

 

[Peyroteo94]

The problem is that the only rider capable of matching/exceeding Pogs uphill acceleration is a better descender and sprinter (Mvp). Plus there are a few guys both very fast and very good descenders who can catch Pog and beat him at the end. MSR is really a difficult puzzle but Lets see how an improved (since last summer) version of Pog handles it. Demolishing Poggio once more or Cipressa?

MVP will not last forever and I wouldn't underrate Pogacar's descending skills. He is good (not worldclass) and he knows those roads very well. His TT last year in Nice shows how good he can be in roads he knows with his eyes closed.

 

[Poursuivant]

Pretty mad to read competitors talking like this:




"We have to be realistic, there's nothing we can do. Pogačar can race without calculating his effort. Van der Poel can too, but us humans have got to think carefully about every effort we make in a race," Bettiol said.

"I hope Pogačar attacks early on Saturday, after UAE hurt everyone on the San Martino in Grania sector with 100km to race. He can clear off, do his thing, and things fall into place.

"That's safer for him, he can avoid any crashes and pace his effort. If he gains a minute, he can have the team car with him in case he punctures. For the rest of us it'll then be fast and furious behind as we race for second place. I like our chances for a place on the podium alongside Pogačar.

"That's still a result anyone and everyone should be proud of. Being beaten by Pogačar is not a dishonour, it's a 'success' to remember and cherish when we are old and retired and talk to our kids about our career and we understand just how good Pogačar was during his career."