Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

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Let’s not be hypercritical. Today was still a tremendous performance for a 20 year old in his first Grand Tour and he matched Quintana and left guys like Kelderman minutes behind.

If he wasn’t fading a touch it would be truly remarkable.
 
Earlier this year, when Tadej won the Tour of California, I thought that was pretty amazing for a 20-year-old neo-pro. But what he's done in the Vuelta is incredible: winning two of the toughest stages convincingly (two grand tour stages!), reaching as high as 3rd on GC at the start of the 3rd week, and solidifying a 5th-place final GC spot (most likely). I didn't see much fade today--he was right with Quintana and other top-10 GC guys--just not quite as strong today as the four riders in the red-jersey group. The only downside is that after this year's Vuelta, there will be the pressure of very high expectations for Poga all next year, though he seems to have a great temperament for it.
 
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I should have never doubted in this young man. What a win, and what a Vuelta!

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Like I said He is the real deal. I can't wait to see Poga vs Bernal and Remco in the future. The best climber and worst time trialist against 2 pure all rounders with a tremendous engine.
 
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I'm not saying he isn't talented, but the peloton in the Tour de l'Avenir are unknown riders. At the U23 World Championships, he couldn't keep up with the best, but 5 months later, after he joined UAE, he suddenly starts beating the best. I'm not buying it.

Well… it's literally called the Race of the Future! Those riders tend to not, you know, remain unknown. Bernal, Quintana, Chaves, Marc Soler, Lopez, Barguil… they've all won it. And that's just within this decade…

As for Lunigiana, well... Evenepoel. You heard about him? He's won it!
 
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Nothing special as a U-23 rider.
I stopped treating it seriously here. How can winning Tour de l'Avenir and two other stage races at 19 and finishing top5 in a race with WT teams like Tour of Slovenia at 18 be called "nothing specail as a U-23 rider" ? Where the hell an U-23 stage racer is supposed to prove himself if Tour de l'Avenir has a peloton of"unknown riders"? And how being unable to keep up with the best in U-23 WC (he still finished 7th) undermines anything? It's like exceptional stage racers like Froome and Contador were always shining in one-day races and at 19 you are supposed to display levels of consistency not even a prime Valverde can match?
 
I'm sitting here waiting until the strava file from yesterday gets uploaded.

I don't actually expect crazy outputs, it's more that I think everyone was completely dead. Basically Finestre light but with much easier climbs and hence smaller gaps.
 
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