People are underrating Pogacar. Vingegaard will not beat him easily. Vingegaard was saying he had his best numbers ever before Paris Nice and he got smashed by Pogacar. Of course Vingegaard is a different beast in July but this will not be easy for Vingegaard.
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It is only "natural" Vingegaard goes in as the favorite this time, since he won it last time.
That Pog also crashed in Liege and has not had an optimal preparation, just adds to it.
Can Pog still win? Of course, he can!
There is really no point in speculating further until the race is underway.
That Pog also crashed in Liege and has not had an optimal preparation, just adds to it.
Can Pog still win? Of course, he can!
There is really no point in speculating further until the race is underway.
Why is that weird? Pog looked like the big favorite and like he could beat Vinge, but then he broke his wrist and is just now getting back on the road. Seems reasonable that popular opinion would shift in favor of Vingegaard to me.
I'm talking about 100% Pog, so assuming the crash didn't matter.
Well, Pogi had his best ever spring. I think he'll be fine.
I think it‘s a general narrative shift, a few weeks ago, everyone’s talking about the Giro and now everybody is suddenly talking about how they should all do the Tour and how Vingegaard is amazing in the Tour and then the contenders for the Vuelta will be led by Landa because he‘s won Burgos or something and it‘s the same with the classics, Pog is amazing in the classics=>Hot hand fallacy kicks in, Vingegaard has just done more amazing numbers and Pog isn‘t considered to be as good as in the classics… I just realised my rambling is completely unreadable: good
Wouldnt Nadal be like a rider who only cares about one race though?
It is not a sport anyway so it is hard to compare them, I guess.
Luckily, the entire world is not evolved around Netserk's whims.
Luckily, everyone is not so miserable all the time and can laugh at things. Have a good day
Luckily, everyone is not so miserable all the time and can laugh at things. Have a good day
Yup, my thoughts. Pog had a monstrous first part of the season but when it comes to the Tour a difficult battle was expected. I rated them about 50/50 but obviously now I'm rating Vinge's chances higher.
I think I said that. And I don't think I was drunk at the time. Nor did I post from a pub.
But yeah, let's just pretend he wasn't the big favourite to win Liège and that he didn't have an air of complete invincibility around him after Amstel. Tour was and is 50/50 but if that happened, there was a potential, I wasn't awarding his 2023 season as the best of history at the time...
I think the feeling after Amstel was that Ben Healy maybe would have caught him again without the race organizer intervening, and that he may be starting to fade slightly towards the end of the classics season.
I think that was neither here nor there. Healy catching him was very unlikely if not completely improbable. Healy beating him in the sprint, however, was less likely than Fraile winning the Tour. So I don't know the point of this. He had also been riding with a flat for a long time.
I agree with you, but that was the vibe I got from some of the reporting at the time.
I think people had to have something to talk about. And it was very wrong what happened, however, not altering the results of the race.
We're 4 weeks away from the Tour. Vingegaard most likely has an insane level (just look at how he casually did a lead out for Laporte with a finger in his nose), meanwhile Pogacar does training rides with his left wrist wrapped up.
Before Liège I reckoned Pogacar was going to take the Tour but after seeing his recent pics... I think I don't like seeing his wrist like that so close to July.
In this sport where every little detail counts, the details are well & truly not on Pogacar's side right now.
Here is a new article. Teddy confident in the form of his legs but admits his wrist won't be 100% and he may need a brace during the Tour:
Four weeks, two races, lots of wrist braces: Can Tadej Pogačar hit top form for Tour de France?
'Maybe the wrist won't be 100 percent, but the legs can be': Pogačar choses training over stage racing ahead of yellow jersey bout with Vingegaard.
velo.outsideonline.com
I am not confident with these recent setbacks that Pogi can beat Vingegaard in the Tour. But a braced wrist should not impede his prep very much if at all.Here is a new article. Teddy confident in the form of his legs but admits his wrist won't be 100% and he may need a brace during the Tour:
Four weeks, two races, lots of wrist braces: Can Tadej Pogačar hit top form for Tour de France?
'Maybe the wrist won't be 100 percent, but the legs can be': Pogačar choses training over stage racing ahead of yellow jersey bout with Vingegaard.
He says he can't sprint. Not a problem now but at the Tour it will. Even if it improves significantly it could be recommended that he shouldn't do it (in order not to risk).
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