Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[Froome]

3 minutes advantage after the first TT, remember this

How many w/kg will Pogacar do on oropa? 6.95 w/kg or 6.9585 w/kg? Do you think he will break pantani record?

If is secret you can't tell how many w/kg he will do on vallter and oropa, i understand mou, i won't be mad at you.

 

[Berniece]

do you know what Pog's base level is, I think you have no idea, so what do you think this Pog for Strade Bianche was the 1st peek of the season, so did you see his face at the finish line, you will see the peek soon at the Giro and don't worry when he wins both TTs and mocks the competition in that field as well, if you want I can give you some information about that and who trains him privately in Monaco, who is his physio in Monaco and where he humiliated Bjerg and Ayuso at the TT test in February and Ayuso can't stand Pogacar with his eyes, I don't know if you knew that, but Pog doesn't pay attention to it, it can be a big problem on the Tour, but since he is Matxin's pet, his wish to be on the Tour has been fulfilled and he has no plans to be Pogi's domestic, regardless the weaker he was

I don't care about all the extra information you are giving, and if it's correct or not. We'll see in July how well he rides.

 

[The Clogger]

Yeah, the UAE team listed for MSR on PCS doesn’t make sense at all. Those guys aren’t in good shape. Don’t know why they won’t put guys like Bjerg, Politt, Del Toro, and McNulty, who are all in really good shape. Especially Bjerg, who was finishing around 2-3 minutes behind Jonas in the Tirreno mountain stages. Let’s see when the confirmed team gets announced.

Perhaps Bjerg got a new coach and a new training schedule as well.

 

[Netserk]

With the removal of last year's Paris-Nice from the one year running total, Pogacar has dropped below 3000 CQ points for the first time since, I believe, the 2021 Tour.
The end is nigh!

Hehe, I had the same reaction and posted it in Vingegaard's thread.

Pogi had continuously been in the lead of the rolling ranking for 138 weeks, but no more. Even down to third!

 

[mou]

How many w/kg will Pogacar do on oropa? 6.95 w/kg or 6.9585 w/kg? Do you think he will break pantani record?

If is secret you can't tell how many w/kg he will do on vallter and oropa, i understand mou, i won't be mad at you.

your stunts are at the level of Froom's riding at Tour Rwanda this year, that's very bad dawg, very bad 🤣🤣🤣

 

[Froome]

your stunts are at the level of Froom's riding at Tour Rwanda this year, that's very bad dawg, very bad 🤣🤣🤣

It was an awesome ride by froome in Rwanda, he was getting the hard miles 😎

 

[Cassirer]

The engagement with these posts is surprisingly high given its vwpe who has found the numbers pad on his keyboard.

 

[Netserk]

your stunts are at the level of Froom's riding at Tour Rwanda this year, that's very bad dawg, very bad 🤣🤣🤣

When you hesitate in giving a prediction of how fast he'll do the MTFs of Catalunya, is that because you expect him to hold back and just do enough to win, or will he deliver one all-out performance there?

 

[mou]

When you hesitate in giving a prediction of how fast he'll do the MTFs of Catalunya, is that because you expect him to hold back and just do enough to win, or will he deliver one all-out performance there?

Pog is ready to be at 7 w/kg for 20 min if necessary after 4 hours of a fast-paced race, I'll just say that from 2024 onwards no one will leave him on the hill

 

[Netserk]

Pog is ready to be at 7 w/kg for 20 min if necessary after 4 hours of a fast-paced race, I'll just say that from 2024 onwards no one will leave him on the hill

The uphill finishes in Catalunya are of longer duration. The records are 31'45" for the first and 47'35" for the second. So what can he currently do for 30 minutes and what can he do for 45?

 

[mou]

The uphill finishes in Catalunya are of longer duration. The records are 31'45" for the first and 47'35" for the second. So what can he currently do for 30 minutes and what can he do for 45?

no matter how hilly it is, 10, 15, 18 km, no one will ever leave Pog on the hill again, he can keep a constant pace of 6/kg (1 hour climb) and respond to every attack, even from Vingo, as a joke, the days from last year's Tour are past

 

[Netserk]

Fair enough, but I didn't ask for 20 minutes or 1 hour efforts. I'm interested in 30 minutes and 45 minutes efforts.

 

[Froome]

no matter how hilly it is, 10, 15, 18 km, no one will ever leave Pog on the hill again, he can keep a constant pace of 6/kg (1 hour climb) and respond to every attack, even from Vingo, as a joke, the days from last year's Tour are past

So, no more "i'm dead, i'm gone"? and no more losing again by almost 10 minutes? I hope yes, because it was really sad.

 

[Berflamand]

Ayuso can't stand Pogacar with his eyes, I don't know if you knew that, but Pog doesn't pay attention to it, it can be a big problem on the Tour, but since he is Matxin's pet, his wish to be on the Tour has been fulfilled and he has no plans to be Pogi's domestic, regardless the weaker he was

This is a surprise to me, was this known already? I mean, I had read/heard about Ayuso not really willing to be a domestique for anyone but I didn't know he 'can't stand' Pogacar. Has something happened between them or is it just some form of jealousy? If this is true it doesn't seem like the best idea to include both in a Tour GC team.

 

[mou]

4 things were worked on starting from 18.11.2023, namely long climbs, heat training, altitude training plan for the Tour after the Giro and TT position and optimization and all these things are something new for Pog because that bald fraud he trained him endless zone 2 and 15 min intervals and took out his lactates, that's all..now that the Pog numbers in the last 3 months have skyrocketed compared to training with Inigo we got Jorgensen from Visma compared to Jorgensen from Movistar and now copy it nicely to Pog with Inigo and Pog with Javier and that's it, everyone in the peloton wears Core measuring devices except Tadej until this year hey WTF

 

[mou]

This is a surprise to me, was this known already? I mean, I had read/heard about Ayuso not really willing to be a domestique for anyone but I didn't know he 'can't stand' Pogacar. Has something happened between them or is it just some form of jealousy? If this is true it doesn't seem like the best idea to include both in a Tour GC team.

Jealousy

 

[Sybrand]

Pog also said that on the day of Col de la Loze, his stomach didn't process the food so he became empty at the end. How do they make sure that won't happen again?

 

[Barkintheeye]

SB has 4500 meters of elevation gain. By the time Pog attacked everybody was tired due to a brutal pace (which wasn't brutal to Pog due to his w/kg superiority). Before Cipressa you have only flat with all the helpers in the peleton still ready to work for their leaders.

In addition to your point this year’s Strade Bianche was particularly tough, with wet soft gravel roads favoring light, nimble riders with a high W/kg such as TP. MSR is completely different. Still TP is most likely going to be a real menace to the other favorites such as MVDP et al.

 

[tobydawq]

Pog also said that on the day of Col de la Loze, his stomach didn't process the food so he became empty at the end. How do they make sure that won't happen again?

He should stop trying to ingest more carbohydrates per hour than he can process (which he addressed in the coffee ride interview with Matt Stephens).

 

[mou]

Pog also said that on the day of Col de la Loze, his stomach didn't process the food so he became empty at the end. How do they make sure that won't happen again?

it was all due to the heat and exhaustion as a result of the same, which lasted from 7 stages of the Tour to the Col de Loze and the stomach could not digest it, the heat problem was solved by proper heat training for the 1st time in his life in 2024

 

[Offline]

Ayuso can't stand Pogacar with his eyes, I don't know if you knew that, but Pog doesn't pay attention to it, it can be a big problem on the Tour, but since he is Matxin's pet, his wish to be on the Tour has been fulfilled and he has no plans to be Pogi's domestic.

''Can't stand'' is big words! Is it really that serious? - Can believe that when the bringing both. Also did Ayuso not say public Pogacar is the captain? All that being said, I think there is space enough for both of them. But for me Almeida and Yates are clear helpers this tour!

 

[Netserk]

''Can't stand'' is big words! Is it really that serious? - Can believe that when the bringing both. Also did Ayuso not say public Pogacar is the captain? All that being said, I think there is space enough for both of them. But for me Almeida and Yates are clear helpers this tour!

Almeida riding for someone else? Even here in Paris-Nice he did nothing for McNulty despite how bad Almeida was, he even required doms to help him with his 11th in GC.

 

[scribers]

For sure there is space for Ayuso on the tour. If something were to happen to pogi you do like some options. Or if they can put him in a break that can only tear some watts off of visma.

When it’s crunch time and Ayuso isn’t “on the team”, then he’ll be exposed and likely switching to Movistar etc. so good luck with that.

 

[mou]

Almeida riding for someone else? Even here in Paris-Nice he did nothing for McNulty despite how bad Almeida was, he even required doms to help him with his 11th in GC.

Ayuso has nothing to do on the Tour with Pogi, but that's not up to me to decide, Bjerg, Pollit, Wellens and little Morgado, Del Toro, Majka and Yates would be my choice because Majka is useful there and great for the atmosphere in the team, he has a great relationship with Pogi, it's not just about who is better in terms of numbers, but what kind of relationship he has with the captain

 

[Colonel]

you know the saying, "don't hate the players, hate the game", I'm just a messenger from the Pogi camp to spice things up a bit, it's never been this interesting on this forum and now you have question marks over your head, what if this @mou is saying is true hmmm , it's true💯, don't worry, be happy

Pogi camp forget to tell you that Yates is not coached by Javier as you have claimed.