Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[vwpe]

As i said before and sorry havent been on here after the race in Liege. I was so fortunate to be in the car with Roodhooft and when Pogacar went everyone was just like yes well podium it is.

Its very rare what weve seeing now, I dont think theres a single soul inside cycling who doesnt think Pogacar is the best cyclist of all time already, its truly remarkable the way he does it aswell and can only be compared to Eddy. For me Eddy is still the greatest but yeah its pretty common knowledge Pogacar is the best cyclist of all time from every rider and DS ive spoken to basicly this seems to be a foregone conclusion, its really special.

Also what a performance for MvdP, I think he did better than he honestly hoped for since like he said too, he definitely didnt have the robauix legs he couldnt have been happier for a podium. Winner of Robauix and podium in Liege same year speaks volume and was definitely celebrated.

 

[Peyroteo94]

As i said before and sorry havent been on here after the race in Liege. I was so fortunate to be in the car with Roodhooft and when Pogacar went everyone was just like yes well podium it is.

Its very rare what weve seeing now, I dont think theres a single soul inside cycling who doesnt think Pogacar is the best cyclist of all time already, its truly remarkable the way he does it aswell and can only be compared to Eddy. For me Eddy is still the greatest but yeah its pretty common knowledge Pogacar is the best cyclist of all time from every rider and DS ive spoken to basicly this seems to be a foregone conclusion, its really special.

Also what a performance for MvdP, I think he did better than he honestly hoped for since like he said too, he definitely didnt have the robauix legs he couldnt have been happier for a podium. Winner of Robauix and podium in Liege same year speaks volume and was definitely celebrated.

He just needs to stay on his bike during this season. If he can do it, I think we will witness greatness and history.

 

[Rob5091]

Gianetti explains the Pogi Plan for the Summer (or "Teddy's Big Adventure" as it would have been called back in the day)
https://velo.outsideonline.com/road...nge-precisely-because-it-is-very-complicated/

It remains to be seen if they will be in top shape for the June 29 start of the race but, in taking on the Giro/Tour double—and bearing in mind the disappointments of Evans, Froome and Dumoulin—the obvious question is could Pogačar be leaving himself open to a less-than-ideal buildup to that race?

Gianetti doesn’t agree with the suggestion. “I don’t think so,” he insists.

Instead he points to Pogačar’s light racing schedule this year, one which has seen him compete just ten days thus far, but win a staggering seven times.

“I think the Giro will be good for him because he will just have a few days of competition before the Giro d’Italia and then he will take a complete recovery time after the Giro and before the Tour.

“So the Giro will be an amazing [he pauses] … we can say ‘training,’ but he will not take the Giro as training, he will aim to do it well, to go for the general classification. ...“If everything is okay, he will finish the Giro in good shape.”

 

[Barkintheeye]

Rider	ROAD WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS	Total monuments	Total victories notable 1D races
Tom Boonen	1​	7​	20​
Fabian Cancellara	0​	7​	13​
Mathieu van der Poel	1​	6​	12​
Tadej Pogacar	0​	6​	10​
Paolo Bettini	2​	5​	7​
Philippe Gilbert	1​	5​	15​
Alejandro Valverde	1​	4​	10​
Óscar Freire	2​	3​	5​
Vincenzo Nibali	0​	3​	3​
Peter Sagan	3​	2​	10​
Remco Evenepoel	1​	2​	3​
Peter van Petegem	0​	2​	5​
Julian Alaphilippe	2​	1​	7​
Michal Kwiatkowski	1​	1​	7​
Greg Van Avermaet	1​	1​	6​
Wout Van Aert	0​	1​	7​
Davide Rebellin	0​	1​	5​

 

[Red Rick]

Rider	ROAD WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS	Total monuments	Total victories notable 1D races
Tom Boonen	1​	7​	20​
Fabian Cancellara	0​	7​	13​
Mathieu van der Poel	1​	6​	12​
Tadej Pogacar	0​	6​	10​
Paolo Bettini	2​	5​	7​
Philippe Gilbert	1​	5​	15​
Alejandro Valverde	1​	4​	10​
Óscar Freire	2​	3​	5​
Vincenzo Nibali	0​	3​	3​
Peter Sagan	3​	2​	10​
Remco Evenepoel	1​	2​	3​
Peter van Petegem	0​	2​	5​
Julian Alaphilippe	2​	1​	7​
Michal Kwiatkowski	1​	1​	7​
Greg Van Avermaet	1​	1​	6​
Wout Van Aert	0​	1​	7​
Davide Rebellin	0​	1​	5​

Freire won 3 WC....

 

[Netserk]

And Bettini won the OGRR.

 

[Blanco]

Rider	ROAD WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS	Total monuments	Total victories notable 1D races
Tom Boonen	1​	7​	20​
Fabian Cancellara	0​	7​	13​
Mathieu van der Poel	1​	6​	12​
Tadej Pogacar	0​	6​	10​
Paolo Bettini	2​	5​	7​
Philippe Gilbert	1​	5​	15​
Alejandro Valverde	1​	4​	10​
Óscar Freire	2​	3​	5​
Vincenzo Nibali	0​	3​	3​
Peter Sagan	3​	2​	10​
Remco Evenepoel	1​	2​	3​
Peter van Petegem	0​	2​	5​
Julian Alaphilippe	2​	1​	7​
Michal Kwiatkowski	1​	1​	7​
Greg Van Avermaet	1​	1​	6​
Wout Van Aert	0​	1​	7​
Davide Rebellin	0​	1​	5​

Define notable one-day races.
I see you counted Dwars dor Vlaanderen as notable, but San Sebastian not.
You counted Kuurne, but not Zuri-Metzgete
Also Olympic Games somehow is not notable according to you?!
E3 was not so notable before WT status (2012).
Strade was not so notable in the first 3-4 years.
Paris-Tours was not so notable after losing WT status (2009).

 

[Berniece]

Gianetti explains the Pogi Plan for the Summer (or "Teddy's Big Adventure" as it would have been called back in the day)
https://velo.outsideonline.com/road...nge-precisely-because-it-is-very-complicated/

Dumoulin also only had 12 race days beforehand. I think he has a shot but it’s mostly because Vingegaard crashed, and I’m sure Pogacar will feel the Giro by the end of the TDF in his legs. He has a shot because even not at 100% he should be able to follow Roglic/Evenepoel

 

[Red Rick]

It's 2024 and we're still acting as if common sense applies to Pogacar.

Detraining because the Giro is too easy is a bigger threat than fatigue.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

It's 2024 and we're still acting as if common sense applies to Pogacar.

Detraining because the Giro is too easy is a bigger threat than fatigue.

Pog can just ask his team to ride full gas whenever he‘s detraining to do some nice Zone 2. He also does some light intervals at stage finishes.

 

[Red Rick]

Pog can just ask his team to ride full gas whenever he‘s detraining to do some nice Zone 2. He also does some light intervals at stage finishes.

Imagine Pogacar driving himself to the 3km mark in a sprint stage cause otherwise he's taking too many rest days for the Tour

 

[Oldermanish]

Freire won 3 WC....

Oscar had some style, too. Back in the bad old days.

 

[Poursuivant]

He just needs to stay on his bike during this season. If he can do it, I think we will witness greatness and history.

Giro-Tour-Worlds. Lombardia to be the cherry on the cake.

 

[Red Rick]

Oscar had some style, too. Back in the bad old days.

You don't have that sort of character anymore. Man literally forgot how many laps in a race so he asked Boogerd how far to go at 500m from the line before winning it.

 

[Berniece]

Detraining because the Giro is too easy is a bigger threat than fatigue.

Oh please, as if Ineos isn’t going to make the race as hard as possible. And as if the weather is always going to be sunny.

 

[Red Rick]

Oh please, as if Ineos isn’t going to make the race as hard as possible. And as if the weather is always going to be sunny.

Ineos making a race hard for Geraint Thomas?

Would be funny if they "learned" from the loss to Roglic that way

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Ineos making a race hard for Geraint Thomas?

Would be funny if they "learned" from the loss to Roglic that way

G. lost to mighty Rogla by 14 seconds so should be within a minute to Teddy*. Should be an exciting race.

*until stage1 finale

 

[Berniece]

Ineos making a race hard for Geraint Thomas?

Would be funny if they "learned" from the loss to Roglic that way

Ineos and Bora will make the race hard purely for their TDF chances

 

[yaf]

G. lost to mighty Rogla by 14 seconds so should be within a minute to Teddy*. Should be an exciting race.

*until stage1 finale

Its interesting joaxin martxin said in interview with cycling news that the idea with the giro tour is trying to race conserved on the 1st week of giro. The only good news for ineos and co. Atleast pog will make the race interesting until prati di tivo

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Its interesting joaxin martxin said in interview with cycling news that the idea with the giro tour is trying to race conserved on the 1st week of giro. The only good news for ineos and co. Atleast pog will make the race interesting until prati di tivo

Could be a bluff though. Gaining a lot of time in the first 8 days should make the second part of the race more comfortable.

 

[Miss Violet Smith]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1784856749427634204

View: https://twitter.com/TonkeBerg/status/1784856749427634204?t=zhPNLvNDsXY3aPUKa-sOXw&s=19

https://twitter.com/x/status/1784862901225796032

View: https://twitter.com/cyclistsandcats/status/1784862901225796032?t=-RhFx8MB8RvbfjTIPpbCkQ&s=19


Pogačar has a matching cat.

 

[yaf]

Could be a bluff though. Gaining a lot of time in the first 8 days should make the second part of the race more comfortable.

I dont think martxin is that smart. Just refer to his san remo tactics. He could even tell u targeted stages and domestic orders

 

[Red Rick]

Ineos and Bora will make the race hard purely for their TDF chances

Ineos and Bora together have about 1 rider that can put Pogacar in zone 4 and that's a maybe

 

[Berniece]

Ineos and Bora together have about 1 rider that can put Pogacar in zone 4 and that's a maybe

No one is that good

 

[Oldermanish]

You don't have that sort of character anymore. Man literally forgot how many laps in a race so he asked Boogerd how far to go at 500m from the line before winning it.

That sounds like serious gamesmanship or excellent athleticism triumphing over colossal lack of awareness.
Did Boogerd or Oscar tell that to the press? I'd love to see a live version of it.