Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[Peyroteo94]

Vine was planned to go before his crash.

McNulty has had a long spring, as he isn't down for any GT. So I don't think they could pivot to have him replace Vine.

While only Majka can remain in a ~10 rider group, I think Novak, Grossschartner and Bjerg will all be solid (on the mostly mid climbs of this Giro) and provide enough width to rotate their workload. Pogi will likely only be left with just Majka before the last climb on Grappa.

I'm not intrigued about Grappa. Pogacar won't need help there. For me stage 15 it is very important. Probably, he won't have a enormous advantage to the second place and if he is alone in Mortirolo, he is in trouble if everyone rides against him (probably won't happen) in the valley after Mortirolo.

 

[Netserk]

I'm not intrigued about Grappa. Pogacar won't need help there. For me stage 15 it is very important. Probably, he won't have a enormous advantage to the second place and if he is alone in Mortirolo, he is in trouble if everyone rides against him (probably won't happen) in the valley after Mortirolo.

Nothing will happen on Mortirolo.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

How are they going to fit all of Pogacar, Yates, Sivakov, Mcnulty, Ayuso, Almeida, Wellens, Vine, Soler and some rouleurs in their TdF team?

They will let them race against each other: survival of the fittest. Rogla will be ready then! (he just needs to attach pillows to his body in week 1)

 

[Peyroteo94]

Nothing will happen on Mortirolo.

I think the same however we have to find places where the race can be thrilling... If I have to be honest (excluding crashes), there won't be any fight for the first place. I expect Pog to win 5 or 6 stages with more than 6 minutes.

 

[YavorD]

When I see the strat list, I'm not sure there's a team that's strong enough to isolate Pogacar.
Maybe if 2 or 3 teams work together it would be possible, but they will most probably be too busy fighting with each other rather than isolating Pogacar.

 

[Froome]

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Matxin being a saboteur by going to the hospital visit Vingegaard.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

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Matxin being a saboteur by going to the hospital visit Vingegaard.

He was there to give him bad training advice.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Is he going to drop everyone in Maddalena or will he wait for San Vito?

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Is he going to drop everyone in Maddalena or will he wait for San Vito?

Energy saving mode: win the sprint

 

[YavorD]

Energy saving mode: win the sprint

To be honest, I think building a gap early is the better strategy.
If he drops everyone on the first 2 stages, building 1-2 minutes advantage allows him to sit in the later stages, which I think is more important for his recovery.

 

[Sciatic]

To be honest, I think building a gap early is the better strategy.
If he drops everyone on the first 2 stages, building 1-2 minutes advantage allows him to sit in the later stages, which I think is more important for his recovery.

I think the only problem with that—in the context of saving energy—is having pink jersey means interviews and podium ceremonies for 3weeks straight and a little less rest. That won’t keep him from winning the Giro, so perhaps it doesn’t matter.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

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Matxin being a saboteur by going to the hospital visit Vingegaard.

Spying job to decide Teddy's strategy for the Giro. Conserving energy and 5 stage wins vs dolce vita and 10+ stage wins.

Or he was offering Skeletor a superdom role for record breaking money from sheikhs.

 

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Matxin being a saboteur by going to the hospital visit Vingegaard.

Jay Vine was in the same hospital

 

[AmRacer]

Jay Vine was in the same hospital

Any news about Jay?

 

[Offline]

Any news about Jay?

He is home in Andorra. But not training or anything jet as far as I know

 

[velaso montador]

I woulda loved to see Del Toro at the giro but duo to the schedule he has its not feasible I get that. I guess Vuelta is in the cards for him and more Gt's next year. That guy will be incredible I think. Just going out on a limb and i think he might surpass Ayuso really fast. Anyway Pogacar coulda needed his skills already this year but makes sense with the schedule but still woulda loved to see him.

Also make sense for Pog as I suspect even in training mode noone will be able to follow him in the mountains so a more focus on roulers make sense which they have deployed and gone for here, also the route is less mountains anyway and their clearly saving the best guys for the Tour (minus Bjerg), which also align with what they said about he riding it more as a ''training'' and coming out stronger and fresher if all goes duo to their plan which it rarely does in the chaos of what a GT usually brings.

 

[KZD]

So how many stages will Pogačar win in the upcoming Giro?

I will go with 5 plus GC of course.

 

[Peyroteo94]

So how many stages will Pogačar win in the upcoming Giro?

I will go with 5 plus GC of course.

He will win stage 1 or stage 2 (or both). Stages 7 and 8 are locked too. After this, I believe he will (at least) win one more so 4 stages and GC for sure (without crashes).

 

[SafeBet]

So how many stages will Pogačar win in the upcoming Giro?

I will go with 5 plus GC of course.

I'd set the o/u at 4,5. If he's comfortably in the lead by week 3 he might gift every moutain stage to the break though.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

So how many stages will Pogačar win in the upcoming Giro?

I will go with 5 plus GC of course.

Stage 1 by sprint and then stick to G. wheel for the rest of the race.

 

[Red Rick]

I'd set the o/u at 4,5. If he's comfortably in the lead by week 3 he might gift every moutain stage to the break though.

Yeah 4.5 seems the most natural over/under to me, although at the same time it feels ridiculously conservative. He won *** 4 stages in Catalunya.

I've also never seen Pogacar gift anything outside of .1 races to teammates, so it feels like we're finally gonna see how greedy Pog is.

But I guess gifting to the break is different than gifting to a direct competitor when the stage is right there.

 

[KZD]

Stage 1 by sprint and then stick to G. wheel for the rest of the race.

No chance it will be that boring.

I look forward to see how Pogi will perform on both TT, with the current UAE set-up he can actually win both under the right circumstances.

 

[Valv.Piti]

Estabashlishing dominace is by far the best strategy - make the rest ride for second as fast as possible if they didn't do that to begin with. After the first two days, and then the next week until the rest day, he should have a big enough gap that he can chill and do whatever he feels like the rest of the race.

I say 5 stages

 

[Netserk]

5 stages in the first week alone.

 

[Valv.Piti]

5 stages in the first week alone.

Conservative

Now that I look at it again, its prolly closer to 6-7 during all of the race.