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CyclistAbi

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@Froome

When it comes to Rogličes numbers all i can say is i am optimistic. As for the point i was trying to make, perception, if lets say Pogi or Jonas would be the one, finishing second, at the Tour 2020. And from that point on to not finish or participate at the Tour any more. What would your perception be in regards to their chances to win the Tour 2024?

So yeah, circumstances do play an important role, including when it comes to the perception. Anyway, we can discuss this further after the Giro. Now lets see if Pogi can drop the hammer at stage one or we will have to wait all the way to stage two.
 
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CyclistAbi said:
@Froome

When it comes to Rogličes numbers all i can say is i am optimistic. As for the point i was trying to make, perception, if lets say Pogi or Jonas would be the one, finishing second, at the Tour 2020. And from that point on to not finish or participate at the Tour any more. What would your perception be in regards to their chances to win the Tour 2024?

So yeah, circumstances do play an important role, including when it comes to the perception. Anyway, we can discuss this further after the Giro. Now lets see if Pogi can drop the hammer at stage one or we will have to wait all the way to stage two.
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If Pogi finished 2nd in the Tour 2020 it would be because Roglic were stronger than him, but it wasn't the case.
Pogacar already proved in 2020 that he was stronger than Roglic. Roglic also benefited from Pogacar losing 45 seconds in the echelons. The only time he dropped Pogacar, was on la loze, just 15 seconds. That's a real perception.
 
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Froome said:
If Pogi finished 2nd in the Tour 2020 it would be because Roglic were stronger than him, but it wasn't the case.
Pogacar already proved in 2020 that he was stronger than Roglic. Roglic also benefited from Pogacar losing 45 seconds in the echelons. The only time he dropped Pogacar, was on la loze, just 15 seconds. That's a real perception.
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It’s no more real than Abi’s. Another perception is Rogla put time into Pog when he thought it was necessary which is the way he always raced. Unfortunately for him, his assessment of his own and especially Pog’s TT ability was way off.
 
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Froome said:
If Pogi finished 2nd in the Tour 2020 it would be because Roglic were stronger than him, but it wasn't the case.
Pogacar already proved in 2020 that he was stronger than Roglic. Roglic also benefited from Pogacar losing 45 seconds in the echelons. The only time he dropped Pogacar, was on la loze, just 15 seconds. That's a real perception.
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Almost 1 and half minute.
 
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CyclistAbi

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Froome said:
If Pogi finished 2nd in the Tour 2020 it would be because Roglic were stronger than him, but it wasn't the case.
Pogacar already proved in 2020 that he was stronger than Roglic. Roglic also benefited from Pogacar losing 45 seconds in the echelons. The only time he dropped Pogacar, was on la loze, just 15 seconds. That's a real perception.
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That wasn't the question but OK. Anyway, for altering your (selective) perception hence Rogla must win at the Tour 2024. Somehow i feel that next year, defending, you will claim on how Jonas already proved ...

I do get it, Rogla needs to win back to back. I must say some tough perception you got there but OK, we all like challenges.
 
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Will he go for the jersey today or tomorrow already? Its 4 sprint stages after were sprint teams will share the work anyway. I think he will.
 
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If he wasn't going for the double, with this route and these competitors, he could beat Binda's record. And get 13, though not win 80% of the stages.
 
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They really f’ed that up, UAE was quite weak. Pogacar impressive though so nothing to worry about at the moment, but UAE showed some cracks which might be exploited by stronger teams
 
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Because a 3rd place on the stage and 14" in GC is much worse than expected.
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He gained more or less the time on the road that I was expecting him to, just 6 bonus seconds less.

@Red Rick it was a downhill finish and he still did the final kilometers in front, if he was so concerned about the stage he would have let Narvaez or Scachmann take the front.
 
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