Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[Netserk]

Consecutive days. And I mean either way TT-MTF or MTF-TT.

For the Tour:

Armstrong in 1999, 2001 and 2004 (three in a row).

Ugrumov in 1994.

Hinault in 1979.

Merckx in 1970.

EDIT: Sorry, read it as mountain stage at first, not MTF. Only Armstrong in 1999 and 2001 then.

 

[pihi42]

Pog shows up and the race is history.

 

[snipeheem]

Special one told us 4 min after first week, we will see about that tomorrow

 

[cen]

Rog training extra hard now..

 

[SHAD0W93]

Great rice by Pogacar and showing he’s in great shape despite setting up for a double. Will he gain 1’24” on everyone to show Mou was right, it’ll be tight. His second team could help out if they pace hard again.

 

[yaf]

We're lucky to have martinez in the race who looks to be in his algarve shape. At least there is a race.

 

[yaf]

Some guys think pog should have beaten ganna by a minute today if he is to win against top vingegaard. One thing they dont understand is, pog is cruising in this race and just doing enough to win. What is the point in giving ur absolute best when u doesnt need to? If it was at the tour he would not hold back on the flat b/c we know when vingegaard and pogacar are racing head to head they just go full gas from start to finish.

 

[jmdirt]

Great TT young man!

 

[Peyroteo94]

Poor Ganna. Doing his best Dumoulin's impression.
Easy win for Pogi, I knew he would murder that climb

 

[Peyroteo94]

Nah mate. I was saying a 3 minute gap in the GC including these 47 seconds he already has. He "just" needs 2 minutes and 13 seconds.

Oh, I was wrong. He will gain 3 minutes just in 2 stages

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

Take another minute tomorrow and blast the last tt. Rest of the giro should surely be zone 2( ) training for him to prepare for le grande boucle

 

[Lequack]

Poor Ganna. Doing his best Dumoulin's impression.
Easy win for Pogi, I knew he would murder that climb

The last climb really shows the difference. But it will different in the second TT for sure, it's totally flat.

 

[Cookster15]

Some guys think pog should have beaten ganna by a minute today if he is to win against top vingegaard. One thing they dont understand is, pog is cruising in this race and just doing enough to win. What is the point in giving ur absolute best when u doesnt need to? If it was at the tour he would not hold back on the flat b/c we know when vingegaard and pogacar are racing head to head they just go full gas from start to finish.

I hope you are right he is just cruising because it means Pog is riding smart. But he didn't look like he was cruising after the finish? It looked like he emptied himself.

For a reality check today by Pog was still way below the level Vingegaard showed on stage 16 of last year's TdF. That TT was only 32 minutes duration for the winner and yet in that brief time Vingo put 1'38" on Pogacar in 2nd place.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Take another minute tomorrow and blast the last tt. Rest of the giro should surely be zone 2( ) training for him to prepare for le grande boucle

After stage 14 is very possible he will have a 5 minute gap and start his cruise control rides

 

[vwpe]

This guy winning more or less flat TT's vs Ganna too now. Hes just the greatest. What a guy.

 

[kingjr]

This guy winning more or less flat TT's vs Ganna too now. Hes just the greatest. What a guy.

It was, more or less, more less than more

 

[Netserk]

This guy winning more or less flat TT's vs Ganna too now. Hes just the greatest. What a guy.

After the flat first 34 km, Ganna was ahead of Pogi by 47".

 

[Cookster15]

So far Pogacar looks very "Mouish"

Also, not sure if its been discussed but Pogi looks smaller in the upper body?

 

[Oldermanish]

I hope you are right he is just cruising because it means Pog is riding smart. But he didn't look like he was cruising after the finish? It looked like he emptied himself.

For a reality check today by Pog was still way below the level Vingegaard showed on stage 16 of last year's TdF. That TT was only 32 minutes duration for the winner and yet in that brief time Vingo put 1'38" on Pogacar in 2nd place.

LAST YEAR. Pogacar was working with the form he recovered after breaking his wrist and Jonas was at peak. Tadej's crack on Loze showed his depth of form and what happens with nutritional/fluid shortages, too.
Now Jonas has to rebuild and Tadej gets to race at a pace that suits him for his 2 GC win target. Such different times and we may not see those two fight it out in the Tour as the Prime Alphas again.

 

[Peyroteo94]

After the flat first 34 km, Ganna was ahead of Pogi by 47".

Ganna definitely went harder and wind played a role too. I think Pogi always controlled the situation. For some reason, he only lost 3 seconds in the second split.

 

[Gigs_98]

I find it funny how everyone is talking about how "Mou was right". I guess he was, but saying he'd be far in front by now was a completely obvious prediction.

 

[topcat]

I find it funny how everyone is talking about how "Mou was right". I guess he was, but saying he'd be far in front by now was a completely obvious prediction.

It's a cat and mou situation.

 

[Fos]

Ganna definitely went harder and wind played a role too. I think Pogi always controlled the situation. For some reason, he only lost 3 seconds in the second split.

Negative splitting

 

[CyclistAbi]

Great ITT performance today, one for the ages.

 

[snipeheem]

Great ITT performance today, one for the ages.

Ages? Are u sure?