Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[Krzysztof_O]

A light spring schedule is a must.

UAE Tour + MSR + Flandres + Liege

 

[Peyroteo94]

He must avoid any stage race in March. Just keep him under 20 days before the Tour.

 

[AmRacer]

UAE Tour + MSR + Flandres + Liege

-Flanders+Romandie

 

[scribers]

I'm curious about the full combo: Tour + Vuelta + WC is a super difficult triple to achieve.

Has it been done before and who has doned it?

 

[Salvarani]

UAE Tour + MSR + Flandres + Liege

That works

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Has it been done before and who has doned it?

No, this version of the triple has never been done before. Merckx, Roche and Teddy did a more classical variant (Giro+Tour+WC).

 

[AmRacer]

No, this version of the triple has never been done before. Merckx, Roche and Teddy did a more classical variant (Giro+Tour+WC).

Pogi completing both triples.😍

 

[scribers]

No, this version of the triple has never been done before. Merckx, Roche and Teddy did a more classical variant (Giro+Tour+WC).

Given the odd historical schedule of the Vuelta and importance as a race, I get no one from long ago may have done it. But maybe more recently? This is an interesting possible achievement

 

[YavorD]

Given the odd historical schedule of the Vuelta and importance as a race, I get no one from long ago may have done it. But maybe more recently? This is an interesting possible achievement

Not many Tour winners started The Vuelta on a first place.
We only have Vingegaard, Froome trice and Sastre that in the last 30 years.
And then none of them is good enough one day racer to even start the WC.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Tour-Vuelta is way easier to do than Giro-Tour. Quintana,Froome, Roglic, Vingegaard. These 4 didn't have any trouble contesting the win in Vuelta after riding for GC in the Tour.

 

[Red Rick]

So Tour + Vuelta double attempt this time it seems. It also has some flexibility involved. One can withdraw from the Vuelta (and focus on the WC) if too much fatigue is accumulated during the Tour. I'm curious about the full combo: Tour + Vuelta + WC is a super difficult triple to achieve.

Why?

It's the standard Valverde schedule.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Why?

It's the standard Valverde schedule.

And how many wins Valverde got? However I also believe Pogacar can win Tour-Vuelta + 2 monuments + 1 WC.
If he wins these races, he will get very close to Hinault in palmares.

 

[Pantani_lives]

Only three riders have won Tour & Vuelta in the same year:

Spoiler: three riders

Anquetil in '63, Hinault in '78 and Froome in '17.

Nobody has won the Vuelta and the WCRR in the same year.

[Edited]

 

[Peyroteo94]

Only two riders have won Tour & Vuelta in the same year:

Spoiler: two riders

Anquetil in '63 and Hinault in '78

Nobody has won the Vuelta and the WCRR in the same year.

No one really cared about the Vuelta, that's the true.

 

[Netserk]

Top-10's in all three:

Rogla* '20
Valverde '15, '14, '13
Purito '13
Evans '07

Only two riders have won Tour & Vuelta in the same year:

Spoiler: two riders

Anquetil in '63 and Hinault in '78.

Nobody has won the Vuelta and the WCRR in the same year.

Froome '17.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Why?

It's the standard Valverde schedule.

Very little time between all 3 main events. Likely Pog will be gassed at the WC, which is shortly post Vuelta. which is rather shortly post the Tour.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Very little time between all 3 main events. Likely Pog will be gassed at the WC, which is shortly post Vuelta. which is rather shortly post the Tour.

The route is perfect for him. He can win at 80% of his peak level.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

The route is perfect for him. He can win at 80% of his peak level.

Not saying he can't win the WC, even if fatigued. Still, it's a challenge. I remember how dead he was after the WC in Glasgow. He also mentioned that he had been recovering from it for a long time and didn't want to repeat it again.

 

[AmRacer]

Not saying he can't win the WC, even if fatigued. Still, it's a challenge. I remember how dead he was after the WC in Glasgow. He also mentioned that he had been recovering from it for a long time and didn't want to repeat it again.

He was gone and dead too?

 

[Peyroteo94]

Not saying he can't win the WC, even if fatigued. Still, it's a challenge. I remember how dead he was after the WC in Glasgow. He also mentioned that he had been recovering from it for a long time and didn't want to repeat it again.

Don't worry. He was running up stairs 6 weeks before the 2023 Tour. Next year, without crashes he will destroy everyone in the first week of Vuelta and cruise next weeks.

 

[scribers]

Only three riders have won Tour & Vuelta in the same year:

Spoiler: three riders

Anquetil in '63, Hinault in '78 and Froome in '17.

Nobody has won the Vuelta and the WCRR in the same year.

[Edited]

This is neat and not talked about yet (that I saw anyhow). I bet the journalists who cruise the forum will start up the chatter about it. It's a distinct possibility for Pogi and would additionally cement his place in history if he can do it.

 

[scribers]

He was gone and dead too?

The sequel to Remco at the olympics..

I'm gone i'm dead 2

 

[scribers]

Not many Tour winners started The Vuelta on a first place.
We only have Vingegaard, Froome trice and Sastre that in the last 30 years.
And then none of them is good enough one day racer to even start the WC.

George Hincapie said it kinda started with Froome in that if a rider raced the tour and rode the Vuelta, a rider could take that form into the off season and not have to work nearly as hard to maintain a base.

Valverde was just an animal and raced everything though. He'd ride the tour in case he found himself with a chance to win, but he really raced the Vuelta.

 

[Salvarani]

Only three riders have won Tour & Vuelta in the same year:

Spoiler: three riders

Anquetil in '63, Hinault in '78 and Froome in '17.

Nobody has won the Vuelta and the WCRR in the same year.

[Edited]

Vuelta was raced in May when both Anquetil and Hinault rode it. They then rode Suisse or Dauphine, respectively, before the Tour as well. Crazy stuff.

 

[yaf]

Maybe everyone is thinking his biggest goal next year would be tour vuelta but something in me is telling his biggest goal will be msr where he will be in the shape of his life.