Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

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No, I think he needed the rest/break and then to focus on Worlds/Lombardia to be in a good place both mentally/physically.

I think trying the triple would not have done him any good at all and it would have been really stupid, possibly affecting him going into next season.
When he's done winning everything, then he can go for the triple GT. That would be in a couple of years.
 
No, I think he needed the rest/break and then to focus on Worlds/Lombardia to be in a good place both mentally/physically.

I think trying the triple would not have done him any good at all and it would have been really stupid, possibly affecting him going into next season.
I also think doing the Vuelta would give a burnout to Pogacar (after the Vuelta) but he could do it and achieve the biggest feat in cycling.
 
Pogis biggest goal of the 2024 seasn was worlds so the vuelta for the treble conversation was never realistic and we’ll never know. If the parcours for the WCRR would have favored a sprinter, I would have not bet against pogi to contest and win the vuelta

I doubt he would or should publicly state he is aiming for the treble. It’s something you need to win the giro and amass a lead in the tour to allow yourself to think about quietly.
 
No, I dont think so.

He can aim to win the Tour-Vuelta and then the Giro the following season. Hold all three GTs.

Not all three in the same season though, would be stupid to attempt.
Guy is a freak. It's hard to think we will ever have a rider similar to him even if media (in 20/30years) would like to find or overestimate a rider ability to the level of Pog. Something like Alcaraz/Sinner, they are nowhere near the level of peak Nadal/Nole/Roger but they are starting to create this myth they are even because they need to promote the sport (Padel is getting too dangerous).
But to not get off topic, he can do it under the right circunstances.
 
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Guy is a freak. It's hard to think we will ever have a rider similar to him even if media (in 20/30years) would like to find or overestimate a rider ability to the level of Pog. Something like Alcaraz/Sinner, they are nowhere near the level of peak Nadal/Nole/Roger but they are starting to create this myth they are even because they need to promote the sport (Padel is getting too dangerous).
But to not get off topic, he can do it under the right circunstances.
Think it would be stupid trying to win three GTs, in one season, under any circumstances.
 
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Stupid is a harsh word. Risky might best describe it. But not by a physiological standpoint as riders do all three GTs in a season all of the time. And they rarely (never?) see a negative from it the next season
Yes, I think risky is the best word however I also believe it is not the same riding all GT's to win compared to just participate in those races. Kuss wasn't going all out in the 2023 Giro. Adam Hansen was doing all 3 without going all out in every stage. So it's different.
 
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I think he will race Paris Roubaix in 2025 already but will not do a special preparation for it.
Just to see how good he is and he if he can compete already with the best.

I think he wants to ride all monuments next year.

These one week stage races that he hasnt won yet, he can ride with over 30. Who cares about Tour de Romandie an Tour de Suisse when you are this great.

This would be a great and challenging program for him.

MSR
E3
RVV
Paris Roubaix
LBL
Tour
Vuelta
Worlds
LombardiaI

Maybe he can add Omloop or Dauphine.
Let Strade Bianchi for others. He already won it it twice.
 
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The problem with PR is that it is not about watts/kg or even watts/CdA. It is about WATTS. Does he have the absolute watts compared to bigger riders like MVP, WVA or Pederson?

Bigger riders also lose less energy to vertical vibration but I think this can be somewhat mitigated these days by wider tubeless tires and lower pressures. But how does his absolute power compare to a 78 or 80 kg rider?
 
The problem with PR is that it is not about watts/kg or even watts/CdA. It is about WATTS. Does he have the absolute watts compared to bigger riders like MVP, WVA or Pederson?

Bigger riders also lose less energy to vertical vibration but I think this can be somewhat mitigated these days by wider tubeless tires and lower pressures. But how does his absolute power compare to a 78 or 80 kg rider?
Yes, maybe you are right. But imagine the hype before the cobles classics and especially paris roubaix.
I would love it.
 
The problem with PR is that it is not about watts/kg or even watts/CdA. It is about WATTS. Does he have the absolute watts compared to bigger riders like MVP, WVA or Pederson?

Bigger riders also lose less energy to vertical vibration but I think this can be somewhat mitigated these days by wider tubeless tires and lower pressures. But how does his absolute power compare to a 78 or 80 kg rider?
Disagree hugely. Conventional wisdom said that you needed to be heavier to power up the steep cobbled hills in Flanders but Pogacar disproved that comprehensively particularly with the way he dispatched MVDP with ease on Oude Kwaremont which is quite a shallow climb where you might expect pure watts to be more important than watts/KG.

I would not be in any way surprised if he dropped the entire field through the Arenberg forest.
 
I think he will race Paris Roubaix in 2025 already but will not do a special preparation for it.
Just to see how good he is and he if he can compete already with the best.

I think he wants to ride all monuments next year.

These one week stage races that he hasnt won yet, he can ride with over 30. Who cares about Tour de Romandie an Tour de Suisse when you are this great.

This would be a great and challenging program for him.

MSR
E3
RVV
Paris Roubaix
LBL
Tour
Vuelta
Worlds
LombardiaI

Maybe he can add Omloop or Dauphine.
Let Strade Bianchi for others. He already won it it twice.
So agree on this schedule for 2025
 
He already said he will race 2 stage races: UAE and TdF. These are a lock in his schedule. We can also add RVV and Vuelta. He said he would like to go back to RVV and said he would do 2 GT's next season. It is hard to imagine Pogacar doing RVV and then prepare the Giro.
I think his racing program is more clear now.
UAE Tour
SB
MSR
E3 Harelbeke
RVV
LBL (I think he can race FW too)
Dauphiné (I have my doubts if he will race Dauphiné)
Tour
Vuelta
WC
Emilia
Tre Valle
Lombardia
 
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I would be really suprised if he actually goes to Vuelta next year since ITT and RR in Rwanda are just perfect for him. But he did mention in Slovenian Media, he will do 2 GC next year and that he wants to ride Vuelta. In that case he will ride; UAE, MSR, Flanders, Basque, LBL, Dauphine, Tour, Vuelta, WC and Lombardia. He will not skip Basque because he wants to win all the one week spring stage races before he attacks P-R.
 
I would be really suprised if he actually goes to Vuelta next year since ITT and RR in Rwanda are just perfect for him. But he did mention in Slovenian Media, he will do 2 GC next year and that he wants to ride Vuelta. In that case he will ride; UAE, MSR, Flanders, Basque, LBL, Dauphine, Tour, Vuelta, WC and Lombardia. He will not skip Basque because he wants to win all the one week spring stage races before he attacks P-R.
Interesting about basque. I have not heard the reasoning for him staying away from P-R.

No way he actually said this did he?