Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[Peyroteo94]

Pogacar went on skiing today. Taking off those Christmas's chocolates

 

[Tymek]

Pogacar went on skiing today. Taking off those Christmas's chocolates

He also organized a cyclocross race in Slovenia, but didn’t raced.

 

[Tymek]

On the one hand it’s Pogi.
On the other I still can’t believe that he can be better than in Zurich. Zurich was probably his best day in career. 100km attack and still easy win.

Also the fact is that mou was never wrong on predictions.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Vingegaard is admired by Pogacar's level

Jonas Vingegaard opens up on Tadej Pogacar rivalry: "I see him win these races and I'm fascinated by who he is as a cyclist"

Jonas Vingegaard vs Tadej Pogacar has been the defining Grand Tour rivalry of the 2020s. In 2025, it is expected that chapter 5 of their epic Tour de France tug of war will take place and after Pogaca...

cyclinguptodate.com

 

[scribers]

Broe said ‘24 pogi was 8-10% better than the previous pogi. Not sure if this is shorthand claim or visma level number assessment.

 

[Salvarani]

Broe said ‘24 pogi was 8-10% better than the previous pogi. Not sure if this is shorthand claim or visma level number assessment.

Just mind games

 

[scribers]

Astute angle

 

[scribers]

You guys see this ai reel of pogi and Vingo hugging with Xmas sweaters on?

Sick lol

 

[Peyroteo94]

In youtube, we have a very interesting podcast with Javier Sola about training:
- If it is important to measure FTP in a protocolized test.
- Work load in a week for professional and amateur riders.
- Strenght training.
- Altitude training.
- Acclimatization to heat before competitions.

It is in Spanish though. For a portuguese guy it is not difficult but for english people, it may be harder

 

[Fuglen]

In youtube, we have a very interesting podcast with Javier Sola about training:
- If it is important to measure FTP in a protocolized test.
- Work load in a week for professional and amateur riders.
- Strenght training.
- Altitude training.
- Acclimatization to heat before competitions.

It is in Spanish though. For a portuguese guy it is not difficult but for english people, it may be harder

Link?

 

[Peyroteo94]

Link?

View: https://youtu.be/oO7izytuYPQ?si=bAqborxHpLm-u6LW

 

[Mina.S]

View: https://youtu.be/oO7izytuYPQ?si=bAqborxHpLm-u6LW

You can autogenerate English close captioning which isn't too bad.

 

[Rob5091]

Nope, no longer the GOAT it seems when some 17 year old from Belgium can follow and get his phone out to film it ...https://cyclinguptodate.com/cycling...irectors-gave-me-a-pat-on-the-back-afterwards

"A 17-year-old promising Belgian cyclist Quinten Muys has stories to tell to his friends. While riding up the Coll de Rates with few teammates, the rider of Crabbé-Dstny (U19 team linked with Lotto Dstny) suddenly saw a certain Tadej Pogacar whizz past during training in Spain. The cycling phenomenon had set his sights on the KOM of the notorious climb. Muys switched up the gears and gave his best to hang on to the Slovenian's wheel for next two kilometers. ... We jumped behind him and I was even able to get my phone out to film. Afterwards I was able to stay in Pogacar's wheel for another 2 kilometers. I was pushing about 480 to 490 watts. In the last corner I had to let go when he pulled through on the steep section."

 

[Peyroteo94]

Nope, no longer the GOAT it seems when some 17 year old from Belgium can follow and get his phone out to film it ...https://cyclinguptodate.com/cycling...irectors-gave-me-a-pat-on-the-back-afterwards

I think Ryo is not banned. And even if he came back, there are no colombians to talk about.

 

[Tymek]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1872945065259352364

View: https://x.com/mou55981652/status/1872945065259352364?s=46

I hope that mou is wrong this time…

 

[Peyroteo94]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1872945065259352364

View: https://x.com/mou55981652/status/1872945065259352364?s=46

I hope that mou is wrong this time…

So Pogacar will never target Tour-Vuelta. I get his point but if Pogacar wants to win the Vuelta one day, this will happen sooner or later.

 

[Tymek]

Mou is still reading us and replies to our posts on X so I think that it doesn’t make any difference. In that case imo he should be unbanned.

 

[Salvarani]

I said Dauphine to Tour to Vuelta to Worlds to Lombardia is a long stretch.

Especially after starting the season 2-3 weeks earlier, compared to last season, and targeting the classics this year.

He will do Vuelta again, when it makes more sense or something unforeseen happens. Like crashing out of the Tour in the first week or something. It is just not a priority atm and he could do everything else he wants.

You always have to sacrifice something. Last year he skipped the classics to go for double Giro-Tour.

This year he likely skips Vuelta to target classics, Dauphine, Tour, Worlds + Lombardia.

He can do it when it fits his schedule more. Professionally and personally.

We will see though.

 

[scribers]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1872997317911167051

View: https://x.com/franicolai/status/1872997317911167051?s=46&t=X4NqNG7J5ZQ-MxPOi53ECQ

 

[YavorD]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1872997317911167051

View: https://x.com/franicolai/status/1872997317911167051?s=46&t=X4NqNG7J5ZQ-MxPOi53ECQ

The thing with Roubaix is it suits heavier riders.
Weren't the GT riders back in the day usually above 70 kilo?

If so, they were more naturally suited to Roubaix then the GT riders now.

 

[scribers]

It is an interesting analysis of monuments by GT riders. Even so it seems to stretch back into the era before specialists to find successful riders

 

[hayneplane]

It is an interesting analysis of monuments by GT riders. Even so it seems to stretch back into the era before specialists to find successful riders

Yes. Fairly sure Nibali MSR is the only Grand Tour winner outside of Pogacar to win any of the non-climber oriented monuments outside of Pogacar since the mid 90s.

 

[yaf]

View: https://youtu.be/oO7izytuYPQ?si=bAqborxHpLm-u6LW

In the introduction part @ 31 sec into the video he said, "And i think at the level of scientific evidence it is already more than proven that strength work is mandatory to do no?, but the world of cycling has always been very traditional"

A huge dig on san milan and co at uae who held back the greatest talent on the planet
Thanks @jsolalo🙏

 

[scribers]

You would have to go back to the 90's or earlier to find any training philosophy that excludes strength of core plus legs, and even the upper body.

 

[yaf]

You would have to go back to the 90's or earlier to find any training philosophy that excludes strength of core plus legs, and even the upper body.

Thats why @mou called the bald spanish the worst coach ever & thats why pogs competitors will look like doing a different sport to him in the coming year.