Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

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Mina.S

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Wyndbrook said:
I assume you should ask Mou.
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I mean Pog is already in Calpe for sure but there without the team. Urska is at her training camp in Calpe so I assume he just went down there with her and is training with Sola who is also posting from the climbs in the area. All mou is saying is easy to deduce if you look on social media and read most of the slovenian interviews which don't make it to english translations :tearsofjoy: .
 
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Mina.S said:
I mean Pog is already in Calpe for sure but there without the team. Urska is at her training camp in Calpe so I assume he just went down there with her and is training with Sola who is also posting from the climbs in the area. All mou is saying is easy to deduce if you look on social media and read most of the slovenian interviews which don't make it to english translations :tearsofjoy: .
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Sorry, its was just meant to be a flippant comment.
 
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I'm curious to see how the peloton will handle the (one day) races where Pogacar starts, seeing as he'll be the heavy favorite in every race he enters. I don't think we have seen this kind of dominance/difference in level for a long time so how will teams adapt their strategy to try to have a shot at victory?

But maybe it's still too soon for a considerable change in strategy by the peloton and this will only happen after another year of complete dominance (still to be seen ofcourse).

Also, the collective strength of UAE and the individual strength of Pogacar might negate any attempt at a different strategy but I'm still curious to see how the peloton will handle it if his dominance continues.
 
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Berflamand said:
I'm curious to see how the peloton will handle the (one day) races where Pogacar starts, seeing as he'll be the heavy favorite in every race he enters. I don't think we have seen this kind of dominance/difference in level for a long time so how will teams adapt their strategy to try to have a shot at victory?

But maybe it's still too soon for a considerable change in strategy by the peloton and this will only happen after another year of complete dominance (still to be seen ofcourse).

Also, the collective strength of UAE and the individual strength of Pogacar might negate any attempt at a different strategy but I'm still curious to see how the peloton will handle it if his dominance continues.
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They tried some super-strong breakaway in Lombardia. Pog's answer is an uber-team controlling breakaways and setting huge tempo for a couple of hours before Pog's take off.

Actually, the stronger a breakaway is the bigger gap Pog can gain at the race's end (due to brutal pace by UAE and his awesome aerobic engine).
 
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Krzysztof_O said:
They tried some super-strong breakaway in Lombardia. Pog's answer is an uber-team controlling breakaways and setting huge tempo for a couple of hours before Pog's take off.

Actually, the stronger a breakaway is the bigger gap Pog can gain at the race's end (due to brutal pace by UAE and his awesome aerobic engine).
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I agree, I think the outcomes will look something like this: The super-strong breakaway increases the chance that Pog does not win, but when he nevertheless wins - the gap will be even bigger than otherwise.
 
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Berflamand said:
I'm curious to see how the peloton will handle the (one day) races where Pogacar starts, seeing as he'll be the heavy favorite in every race he enters. I don't think we have seen this kind of dominance/difference in level for a long time so how will teams adapt their strategy to try to have a shot at victory?

But maybe it's still too soon for a considerable change in strategy by the peloton and this will only happen after another year of complete dominance (still to be seen ofcourse).

Also, the collective strength of UAE and the individual strength of Pogacar might negate any attempt at a different strategy but I'm still curious to see how the peloton will handle it if his dominance continues.
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Cycling directors are often very conservative and only in races where they see nothing to lose (like Lombardy last year) will they adopt a crazy breakaway strategy.

I think it is under-emphasized how few riders (and teams) actually go into a race with a strategy to win it. They mostly want a good result not the W. Otherwise group 2 syndrome would be very rare - but it is super common.
 
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