Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[Netserk]

Is UAE Tour the new 4th GT fhen?

2nd Tour de Pologne.

 

[scribers]

Because he rides for Visma, Pog will not let anyone from that team win if he can help it bar potential mind games with Vingegaard.

View: https://youtu.be/56Qf1H16T3U?si=NmmHWNx76fCqU_3m

 

[Tymek]

2nd Tour de Pologne.

As a Pole I’m embarrassed for what organizers are saying about this race. The Director of the race said sometime ago that TdP is the third most important race int the World after Tour and Giro. Sorry for that off-top guys.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Naevaez is showing his great acceleration. Pogi can't wait for MSR to see his leadout.

 

[Offline]

Naevaez is showing his great acceleration. Pogi can't wait for MSR to see his leadout.

Naevaez going to be top top signing for UAE

 

[yaf]

Because he rides for Visma, Pog will not let anyone from that team win if he can help it bar potential mind games with Vingegaard.

Its b/c of the arrogance of the entire team from plugge to grischa, from jonas to jorgenson. If you don't know your standard pog will show you the hard way but if u respect him how he is like vdp and remco does u might have a chance to win and, the one guy which the most i'm sorry for is the one who made a recent accusation on unnamed team about the usage of carbon monoxide, who we know for whom its directed for because he will not see a win from the start of june in dauphine to the end of season lombardy.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Naevaez going to be top top signing for UAE

Yeah, people don't realize he was in Ineos and he was performing very well. My old me never thought I would ever say Ineos is a bad team in developing and under performing riders

 

[yaf]

View: https://youtu.be/zNpP12nIyRw?si=1jsTc2Th7kpF6dOJ

"I sent him: I want to know what you really pedalled" - Remco Evenepoel didn't believe Tadej Pogacar's reported wattages were real at Il Lombardia

Tadej Pogacar finished his historic 2024 season in typically scintillating style at Il Lombardia, picking up his second monument victory of the campaign ahead of Remco Evenepoel. Afterwards, the Belgi...

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From minute 1:35 u can hear remco talking about his numbers in lombardy were the same as in the tour and in the 2nd article he said he texted pog what numbers he was pushing in the valley cause he was also pushing his best numbers but was 3:16 down. I think now its quite clear pog was on another level in Lombardy compared to the tour b/c he never has ridden 2 minutes faster than remco on a rolling 26 km(end of sormano descent to the finish) race even in the tour. Anyone who has been active on this thread is able to realize what i'm about to say... Pog will not finish flanders less than 4 minutes on vdp, 🐐 will make last years tour gap laughable so that after the tour fisher cancels his trip to spain and goes back to the factory until the start of the 🌈 TT.👋

 

[hayneplane]

View: https://youtu.be/zNpP12nIyRw?si=1jsTc2Th7kpF6dOJ

"I sent him: I want to know what you really pedalled" - Remco Evenepoel didn't believe Tadej Pogacar's reported wattages were real at Il Lombardia

Tadej Pogacar finished his historic 2024 season in typically scintillating style at Il Lombardia, picking up his second monument victory of the campaign ahead of Remco Evenepoel. Afterwards, the Belgi...

cyclinguptodate.com

From minute 1:35 u can hear remco talking about his numbers in lombardy were the same as in the tour and in the 2nd article he said he texted pog what numbers he was pushing in the valley cause he was also pushing his best numbers but was 3:16 down. I think now its quite clear pog was on another level in Lombardy compared to the tour b/c he never has ridden 2 minutes faster than remco on a rolling 26 km(end of sormano descent to the finish) race even in the tour. Anyone who has been active on this thread is able to realize what i'm about to say... Pog will not finish flanders less than 4 minutes on vdp, 🐐 will make last years tour gap laughable so that after the tour fisher cancels his trip to spain and goes back to the factory until the start of the 🌈 TT.👋

That is some next level madness. If Pog avoids crashes and illness we are in for both physiological level and palmares at a height not even imaginable before.

Remco is legitimately one of the very best of all time on rolling terrain in small groups/solo where drafting has very little impact and he freely admits he was doing his best level yet getting spanked even more comprehensively than in the TDF.

 

[Peyroteo94]

View: https://youtu.be/zNpP12nIyRw?si=1jsTc2Th7kpF6dOJ

"I sent him: I want to know what you really pedalled" - Remco Evenepoel didn't believe Tadej Pogacar's reported wattages were real at Il Lombardia

Tadej Pogacar finished his historic 2024 season in typically scintillating style at Il Lombardia, picking up his second monument victory of the campaign ahead of Remco Evenepoel. Afterwards, the Belgi...

cyclinguptodate.com

From minute 1:35 u can hear remco talking about his numbers in lombardy were the same as in the tour and in the 2nd article he said he texted pog what numbers he was pushing in the valley cause he was also pushing his best numbers but was 3:16 down. I think now its quite clear pog was on another level in Lombardy compared to the tour b/c he never has ridden 2 minutes faster than remco on a rolling 26 km(end of sormano descent to the finish) race even in the tour. Anyone who has been active on this thread is able to realize what i'm about to say... Pog will not finish flanders less than 4 minutes on vdp, 🐐 will make last years tour gap laughable so that after the tour fisher cancels his trip to spain and goes back to the factory until the start of the 🌈 TT.👋

Nah, that's bull$hit. Pogacar was on a different level in the Tour and Remco too. Pogacar did something like 6.5 w/kg in Sormano.

 

[yaf]

That is some next level madness. If Pog avoids crashes and illness we are in for both physiological level and palmares at a height not even imaginable before.

Remco is legitimately one of the very best of all time on rolling terrain in small groups/solo where drafting has very little impact and he freely admits he was doing his best level yet getting spanked even more comprehensively than in the TDF.

Its a hard truth for fisher fans. Pog only started proper training last year and thats why he improves 2wice as others even throughout the season. And now with another off season he will be doing different sport to his rivals

 

[yaf]

Nah, that's bull$hit. Pogacar was on a different level in the Tour and Remco too. Pogacar did something like 6.5 w/kg in Sormano.

Bro, I dont think its hard to understand how w/kg works. There was 40 km left from top of sormano to the finish while it was all hill top finish at the tour. I have to think u didn't expect them to go full gas on sormano with 40 km from the finish line eh?🤔

 

[Peyroteo94]

Bro, I dont think its hard to understand how w/kg works. There was 40 km left from top of sormano to the finish while it was all hill top finish at the tour. I have to think u didn't expect them to go full gas on sormano with 40 km from the finish line eh?🤔

I agree and understand your point but he gained almost 3 minutes on Remco just in one climb. PdB was a mythical performance, in 10 years we will still talk about that. And I can also say Pogacar was doing almost 7 w/kg for 40 minutes (7,20 w/kg for 25 minutes - duration similar to Sormano. Doing 0,7 w/kg more is comparing Pogacar to Buitrago in a mountain) after a hard day on the bike (harder than GdL even if it was a shorter stage), a day after a hard mountain stage and was stage 15 not a one day race.

 

[yaf]

Nah, that's bull$hit. Pogacar was on a different level in the Tour and Remco too. Pogacar did something like 6.5 w/kg in Sormano.

Tadej Pogačar's power numbers on the Colma di Sormano climb during the 2024 Il Lombardia race were: Estimated power for the entire climb: 445 watts for 30 minutes and 52 seconds, or 6.8 watts per kilogram (\(w/kg\)) Estimated power for the final 14 minutes: 465 watts for 13 minutes and 59 seconds, or 7.2 \(w/kg\) Max power: 930 watts, or about 14.4 \(w/kg\)

And it was 6.8 with a negative split of 7.2 w/kg for 14 minutes not 6.5. Dont underestimate 🐐 power💥

 

[Peyroteo94]

Tadej Pogačar's power numbers on the Colma di Sormano climb during the 2024 Il Lombardia race were: Estimated power for the entire climb: 445 watts for 30 minutes and 52 seconds, or 6.8 watts per kilogram (\(w/kg\)) Estimated power for the final 14 minutes: 465 watts for 13 minutes and 59 seconds, or 7.2 \(w/kg\) Max power: 930 watts, or about 14.4 \(w/kg\)

And it was 6.8 with a negative split of 7.2 w/kg for 14 minutes not 6.5. Dont underestimate 🐐 power💥

I will not change my opinion but IIRC he did 6,5 w/kg during the whole climb. I can be wrong though.

 

[yaf]

I agree and understand your point but he gained almost 3 minutes on Remco just in one climb. PdB was a mythical performance, in 10 years we will still talk about that. And I can also say Pogacar was doing almost 7 w/kg for 40 minutes (7,20 w/kg for 25 minutes - duration similar to Sormano. Doing 0,7 w/kg more is comparing Pogacar to Buitrago in a mountain) after a hard day on the bike (harder than GdL even if it was a shorter stage), a day after a hard mountain stage and was stage 15 not a one day race.

Again u are missing the point, i was not talking about a mountain but in the valley where its remcos territory. On a climb its quite obvious pog and vini are much better climbers than him.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Again u are missing the point, i was not talking about a mountain but in the valley where its remcos territory. On a climb its quite obvious pog and vini are much better climbers than him.

After a hard race Pogi is also better than Remco in a rolling terrain. It's all about power after a hard race. Remco has way more aerodynamics but his power is not even close to match Pogacar

 

[yaf]

After a hard race Pogi is also better than Remco in a rolling terrain. It's all about power after a hard race. Remco has way more aerodynamics but his power is not even close to match Pogacar

So u are saying u know better about remco than remco knows about himself ok🤝

 

[hayneplane]

I also find it an interesting insight into their mutual respect and friendship that they willing shared power data with each other in discussing their performances.

 

[Rob5091]

I also find it an interesting insight into their mutual respect and friendship that they willing shared power data with each other in discussing their performances.

We only know Remco shared his data ...

 

[Tymek]

Naevaez is showing his great acceleration. Pogi can't wait for MSR to see his leadout.

Yeah, his leadout may be key to win MSR for Pog.

 

[hayneplane]

We only know Remco shared his data ...

Yes on reading it again you are right. Point still stands that they get on well and hard to imagine Jonas texting either of them in between races.

 

[Rob5091]

Yes on reading it again you are right. Point still stands that they get on well and hard to imagine Jonas texting either of them in between races.

Would not be surprised if teams "own" the riders data somehow so sharing would be a big no no.

 

[saunaking]

Its b/c of the arrogance of the entire team from plugge to grischa, from jonas to jorgenson.

Ya, Jonas & Matteo are real arrogant assholes. Sure dude

 

[Peyroteo94]

So u are saying u know better about remco than remco knows about himself ok🤝

It wouldn't be the first time a rider lied about his level...