Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[Peyroteo94]

Honestly, Narvaez is a better tour domestique than Majka, even though he is 500 years old?

You are underestimating Majka. He is a superb climber and very experienced

 

[Cycling111]

You are underestimating Majka. He is a superb climber and very experienced

It was an ironic question.
Given Adam's level and the doubts about Sivakov, I would've brought Majka before Narvaez.

 

[Peyroteo94]

It was an ironic question.
Given Adam's level and the doubts about Sivakov, I would've brought Majka before Narvaez.

Adam would be better than Majka. He will be good when it matters. Sivakov was sick in PN, so He will also improve until the Tour.

 

[Cycling111]

Adam would be better than Majka. He will be good when it matters. Sivakov was sick in PN, so He will also improve until the Tour.

Not in this Giro.
If it were just the Giro, it wouldn't be a worrying, but Adam has been like this for months.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Not in this Giro.
If it were just the Giro, it wouldn't be a worrying, but Adam has been like this for months.

This is the price Adam paid for going full gas every single stage. This will not happen in the Tour.

 

[Rou]

Looking likely that Pogi won't taste Grand Tour victory this year and Visma will win all 3.

 

[Cycling111]

How good Pogacar is, having won so much on that team riddled with useless.

Today Del Toro had neither helpers nor advice from the car.
He was wrong, but he is too young and they didn´t know how to advise him.

Pogacar is undoubtedly the goat, being in that team is an added value

 

[Cycling111]

Looking likely that Pogi won't taste Grand Tour victory this year and Visma will win all 3.

Pogacar simply has to ignore everything they told from the team car and he will have more chances of winning.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Visma is showing up at the right time. I wouldn't be surprised Kuss will be back too.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Looking likely that Pogi won't taste Grand Tour victory this year and Visma will win all 3.

Calm down. This doesn't say anything about Pogacar. Del Toro was better during 19 stages.

 

[Rou]

Calm down. This doesn't say anything about Pogacar. Del Toro was better during 19 stages.

That 's true but today was too much. In the Tour Visma will have by far a stronger team than UAE. UAE tactics are zero. So Pogi has to do it alone again?

 

[Peyroteo94]

That 's true but today was too much. In the Tour Visma will have by far a stronger team than UAE. UAE tactics are zero. So Pogi has to do it alone again?

Not by far but I think Visma will be better. Simon is stronger than Adam. Matteo will be similar to Almeida. Kuss will be back to his best shape.

 

[Monsi]

Looking likely that Pogi won't taste Grand Tour victory this year and Visma will win all 3.

Lol what? What does this have to do with Pogi's chances at the Tour and maybe Vuelta? Pogi will do his thing and UAE will be better with Pogi in the team. Pogi is still the favorite for the Tour and possibly Vuelta.

 

[Rou]

Not by far but I think Visma will be better. Simon is stronger than Adam. Matteo will be similar to Almeida. Kuss will be back to his best shape.

Pogacar may be stronger than Vingegaard 1 on 1 but when they isolate him 3 to 1 with 50 kms to go and he doesn't drink or eat what do you think Jonas will do to him?

 

[Peyroteo94]

Pogacar may be stronger than Vingegaard 1 on 1 but when they isolate him 3 to 1 with 50 kms to go and he doesn't drink or eat what do you think Jonas will do to him?

Give him a bottle of water?
Pogacar just need to focus on Vingegaard. This is not 2022 where Roglic was a threat.

 

[Rou]

Give him a bottle of water?
Pogacar just need to focus on Vingegaard. This is not 2022 where Roglic was a threat.

Cycling is not one dimensional like you thing it is. Simon Yates wins this Giro and he is not the strongest rider.

 

[Monsi]

Cycling is not one dimensional like you thing it is. Simon Yates wins this Giro and he is not the strongest rider.

I will be surprised if Yates and Jorgenson are anywhere near the level of Pogi and Jonas

 

[No Excuses]

How good Pogacar is, having won so much on that team riddled with useless.

Today Del Toro had neither helpers nor advice from the car.
He was wrong, but he is too young and they didn´t know how to advise him.

Pogacar is undoubtedly the goat, being in that team is an added value

Exactly, every GT he won at UAE is worth 10. Congrats to nr. 40.

 

[Cycling111]

Calm down. This doesn't say anything about Pogacar. Del Toro was better during 19 stages.

'm not worried about Pogacar, I'm worried about his domestiques.

I've been saying this for days. Adam has been doing poorly all year, while his brother won the Giro.
Sivakov and Narvaez have had poor performances in the mountains this year.

Pogacar reliable "only" has Almeida who is going to Switzerland to win the race when he should be thinking only about winning the Tourand avoiding accidents before the Tour.

 

[Rou]

I will be surprised if Yates and Jorgenson are anywhere near the level of Pogi and Jonas

They don't need to be at their level. They just need to destroy all the UAE team (without Pogacar) and Pogi needs to listen to the team car.

 

[Rou]

The fact is UAE can't win a Grand Tour or a monument without Pogacar. They are just point hunters. The '' NUMBER 1'' team in the world.

 

[Peyroteo94]

The fact is UAE can't win a Grand Tour or a monument without Pogacar. They are just point hunters. The '' NUMBER 1'' team in the world.

They are because they have the best rider ever.

 

[Rou]

They are because they have the best rider ever.

Pogacar can be stronger and more dominant in Redbull or Visma. Change my mind.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Pogacar can be stronger and more dominant in Redbull or Visma. Change my mind.

I don't know. UAE riders are very strong. Their problem is who is in charge giving orders.

 

[Rou]

Before 2024 Pogacar was not doing heat training, was not using a core temperature device in races and was training like in the 90s. UAE are a clown team.