Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[AmRacer]

That doesn't seem so serious because Alpecin doesn't win GTs. But Visma's dominance in GTs without Pogacar would be greater than Sky's.

Sky could also have a better win rate if you remove....competition

 

[Cycling111]

Sky could also have a better win rate if you remove....competition

Sky didn't have a rival like Pogacar.

Sky was a better team than UAE in GT; they won the Tour with four different riders. Visma is the current Sky, winning GT with different riders.

 

[AmRacer]

Sky didn't have a rival like Pogacar.

Sky was a better team than UAE in GT; they won the Tour with four different riders. Visma is the current Sky, winning GT with different riders.

Other teams had Froome as a rival.

 

[Cycling111]

Other teams had Froome as a rival.

I was referring to the type of dominance because they won with other riders like Visma.

UAE only wins GTs with Pogacar.

Simon won his first Grand Tour with Visma.
Kuss won because they were the top3 in the Vuelta.
In UAE, the years go by, and no one else can achieve it.

 

[AmRacer]

I was referring to the type of dominance because they won with other riders like Visma.

UAE only wins GTs with Pogacar.

Simon won his first Grand Tour with Visma.
Kuss won because they were the top3 in the Vuelta.
In UAE, the years go by, and no one else can achieve it.

Simon won the Vuelta before. UAE's prospects are young. Vismas not so much. SQS won a GT a few years ago.

 

[Rou]

Simon won the Vuelta before. UAE's prospects are young. Vismas not so much. SQS won a GT a few years ago.

UAE's young prospects are overrated.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Pogi to the rescue.

 

[AmRacer]

Pogi to the rescue.

Pogi the 🐐

 

[Cycling111]

Simon won the Vuelta before. UAE's prospects are young. Vismas not so much. SQS won a GT a few years ago.

Seven years ago. Seven years in cycling is a long time.
He arrived at Visma and won.

Almeida was a good prospect; he's not that young, and he couldn't do it either.

Given that tweet, Pogacar has a lot of merit.

Pogacar hasn't won his GTs with Sky or Visma, which they with multiple riders.
Pogacar has won four GTs against a dominant GT team like Visma.
None of Froome's rivals was on a team that won nine GTs.

 

[AmRacer]

Seven years ago. Seven years in cycling is a long time.
He arrived at Visma and won.

Almeida was a good prospect; he's not that young, and he couldn't do it either.

Given that tweet, Pogacar has a lot of merit.

Pogacar hasn't won his GTs with Sky or Visma, which they with multiple riders.
Pogacar has won four GTs against a dominant GT team like Visma.
None of Froome's rivals was on a team that won nine GTs.

Pogi has been with UAE only. Because of Sky.

 

[Peyroteo94]

I took a quick look to Dauphiné and he can make an upset in the TT.

 

[Cycling111]

I took a quick look to Dauphiné and he can make an upset in the TT.

Yesterday, Sivakov uploaded a video to Strava. Pogacar was training in the ITT bike.

This year I'm especially curious because Almeida did a good ITT in Romandie but McNulty is doing mediocre ones compared to last year.

The Dauphiné Itt is too flat. Remco will win.

 

[ppanther92]

Visma can ride as hard as possible, Vingegaard still needs to drop Pogacar or another PdB scenario will happen.

Exactly what I am saying

 

[Peyroteo94]

Yesterday, Sivakov uploaded a video to Strava. Pogacar was training in the ITT bike.

This year I'm especially curious because Almeida did a good ITT in Romandie but McNulty is doing mediocre ones compared to last year.

The Dauphiné Itt is too flat. Remco will win.

Pogacar will not win IMHO but if he wins (or Vingegaard), I will not be surprised. There are two factors favoring Pogacar:
1 - last year, he lost 12 seconds in a similar TdF TT (but was longer and had a shallower climb).
2 - Pogacar's shape might be better than Remco's shape.

 

[Froome]

Simon won the Vuelta before. UAE's prospects are young. Vismas not so much. SQS won a GT a few years ago.

Wait for nordhagen.

 

[Lorzenz08]

Pogacar will not win IMHO but if he wins (or Vingegaard), I will not be surprised. There are two factors favoring Pogacar:
1 - last year, he lost 12 seconds in a similar TdF TT (but was longer and had a shallower climb).
2 - Pogacar's shape might be better than Remco's shape.

Yes I think it will depends of Remco shape. If he is in shape he should win it similar to 2024 TdF. If not however Pogi chances are pretty high.

It will be also a good test to compare to Vingo, if he makes a better time than Pogi or is very close it will send a big signal that he will be very hard to beat

 

[scribers]

Pogacar will not win IMHO but if he wins (or Vingegaard), I will not be surprised. There are two factors favoring Pogacar:
1 - last year, he lost 12 seconds in a similar TdF TT (but was longer and had a shallower climb).
2 - Pogacar's shape might be better than Remco's shape.

No way possible pogi does not win

 

[Peyroteo94]

No way possible pogi does not win

You are too confident.

 

[scribers]

He’s never won this race. He cares at least as much for the win as he is the tour

 

[Peyroteo94]

He’s never won this race. He cares at least as much for the win as he is the tour

That's not a good reason. Last year he cared about the TT and he still lost to Remco.

 

[Rou]

If he is healthy, doesn't have any issues or crashes and still doesn't win the Dauphine it will be a huge blow for his confidence for July.
For Jonas a loss would mean nothing. He has already won this race and he is just doing the hard miles for the Tour.
The difference is that Pogacar wants to be remembered as the real GOAT when he retires so he will not tolerate a loss.

 

[AmRacer]

If he is healthy, doesn't have any issues or crashes and still doesn't win the Dauphine it will be a huge blow for his confidence for July.
For Jonas a loss would mean nothing. He has already won this race and he is just doing the hard miles for the Tour.
The difference is that Pogacar wants to be remembered as the real GOAT when he retires so he will not tolerate a loss.

Pgi has already had 3 losses.

 

[Rou]

Pgi has already had 3 losses.

What do you mean? He will have more losses in the future as well. This doesn't mean he is fine with getting beaten. He is not del Toro. He has the character of a champion.

 

[AmRacer]

What do you mean? He will have more losses in the future as well. This doesn't mean he is fine with getting beaten. He is not del Toro. He has the character of a champion.

When he has 3 already, he doesn't want anymore this season. That's what I mean, I agree with you.

 

[Jan the Man]

I can’t see Pog winning the TT - it is not at end of a GT and whereas he could take some time on the climb it is highly doubtful it will be anything like enough than time a fresh Remco will gain on the flat part of the course