Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[Salvarani]

Congrats GOAT on winning Dauphine!

What a win

 

[Peyroteo94]

Best stage racer in the world. Too easy!

 

[Peyroteo94]

Congrats GOAT on winning Dauphine!

What a win

Today it was a sunday ride.

 

[Salvarani]

Today it was a sunday ride.

What does this have anything to do with what I said?

 

[Rou]

Not even sprinting against Vingegaard anymore... He doesn't even flinch when he attacks him...
Training ride complete. Onto the next.

 

[Rou]

Paris - Nice, Tirreno, Catalunya, Dauphine - in the bag. Itzulia, Romandie, Suisse remaining.

 

[Peyroteo94]

What does this have anything to do with what I said?

You said "what a win" and today he showed how easy he won this stage race.

 

[Salvarani]

You said "what a win" and today he showed how easy he won this stage race.

Ok, whatever

 

[Rou]

You said "what a win" and today he showed how easy he won this stage race.

This is still the second most prestigious one week race in the world. Quite important.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Not even sprinting against Vingegaard anymore... He doesn't even flinch when he attacks him...
Training ride complete. Onto the next.

Did you change your opinion about Vingegaard being the favorite to win the Tour?

 

[Rou]

Did you change your opinion about Vingegaard being the favorite to win the Tour?

When did I say that Vingegaard is the favorite?

 

[rafa92]

I hope pog in isola 2000 doesn't focus too much on TT, in every interview he talks about working more on TT, but honestly he doesn't need that, even if he looses time in a 33km TT the winner in the tour will be the strongest climber. He clearly has an advantage there but Vingegaard will be better in the tour, pog has simply to keep focusing on climbs, he has to be at the absolute top on climbs at the tour

 

[Peyroteo94]

When did I say that Vingegaard is the favorite?

Wasn't you who said Vingegaard was the favorite because he recovers better?

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Pogacar's stage-races results since the Tour'2020:

1, 1, 1, 3, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1

15 victories, 2 runner-ups, 1 third place (winning percentage: 83%)

I have to say: not bad for a classics specialist!

 

[Rou]

Wasn't you who said Vingegaard was the favorite because he recovers better?

If you find my post you will see what I said. I said that until proven otherwise Vingegaard has better recovery when it comes to doing two Grand Tours in a row. I said this because I did not expect Pogacar to do a Tour-Vuelta double.

 

[Tanakka]

We can add Dauphiné to the list:

next year, Tour de Suisse?



As we know Pog doesn't care much about the one week stage races, but he said he'd like to win the 7 major ones at least once each.
The issue is that Basque and Romandie, calendar wise, are a pain in the... for someone like him who has big Monument and Classics ambitions.
Had Tadej been a Vingo, a Contador, a Froome, an Ivan Basso, and so forth, it would've been a different story.



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What do?

 

[scribers]

When he ages out of classics contention he can try for Romandie and basque

 

[Peyroteo94]

When he ages out of classics contention he can try for Romandie and basque

Yup, who cares about one week stage races qhen you can win RVV and PR

 

[Rou]

As other people have said after this week Pogacar knows Vingegaard's ceiling at the moment. Jonas and Visma don't know Pog's real level.

 

[Rou]

He is still repeating that he needs to focus on his TT now. I am almost 100% sure that he was sandbagging in the TT and is still playing mind games with Visma.

 

[jmdirt]

Great week of racing TP!

 

[No Excuses]

Congrats pogi. Another convincing gc victory.

 

[Tanakka]

He is still repeating that he needs to focus on his TT now. I am almost 100% sure that he was sandbagging in the TT and is still playing mind games with Visma.

IDK, I'm not convinced.
He sandbagged a bit too much: 28 from Vingo and 48.6 from Remco; plus finishing behind Jorgenson and barely ahead of Lipowitz.
Had it been 10 from Vingo and 29 from Remco, it would've made more sense.

This way he had to show his hand in stage 6, anyway.
Therefore, what would even be the point?
Something was weird about said ITT.
Who knows.

 

[rafa92]

He is still repeating that he needs to focus on his TT now. I am almost 100% sure that he was sandbagging in the TT and is still playing mind games with Visma.

I actually hope that in isola he doesn't focus too much on the TT. The best climber will win the tour, now he has an advantage but vingegaard will be better on climbs at the tour, pog has to focus on that

 

[VayaVayaVaya]

Pogacar's stage-races results since the Tour'2020:

1, 1, 1, 3, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1

15 victories, 2 runner-ups, 1 third place (winning percentage: 83%)

I have to say: not bad for a classics specialist!

It’s also insane that he hasn’t crashed out of a single stage race or even missed a single stage race due to crashes that I am aware of. 2024 he likely underperformed due to injury but still got second. That is a hugely underrated aspect. He’s also the most talented rider in the world, but that ability is what separates the Froome/Armstrong’s (4/7 Tour wins) from the Contador/Roglics’s (3/0 Tour wins despite IMO more talent than the former group). Pogacar of course has it all, Vingegaard is somewhere in the middle but trending toward the latter, Remco is firmly following his idol Roglic into the crash-marred career category…