Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[scribers]

Can’t argue with that. Win lose or draw pogi to the vuelta

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

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[Peyroteo94]

Important takes from Wellens:
- He didn't want to race the National RR because he believes it isn't a ideal prep for the Tour (extra day of travelling)
- He said he normally feels he is the worst rider because everyone in UAE (those who will race the Tour) is doing their best numbers and flying right now.
- he is climbing better than ever

What I'm thinking is: UAE will destroy the Tour in the first mountain stage. If no one crashes, this is what I think. Pogacar will win the Tour there.

Gregário de Tadej Pogacar não esconde boa forma do esloveno antes do Tour "estou dizendo isso para assustar? Não posso dizer muito o que Tadej fez"

Agora que os campeonatos nacionais na Europa ficaram para trás, o foco volta-se totalmente para o Tour de France.

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[Peyroteo94]

There is a joint statement from both moderators in the moderation thread. This is one of a number of threads in which it might be worth drawing people's attention to it.

Just one thing, I think you should write this post in the Clinic.

Cheers.

 

[James M]

Congrats mate, it's the best and most frightening thing in the world!
Yeah, it's really hard to think Pogacar won't win the Tour without any misfortune and I think he didn't show his true level in the Dauphine.

Correct. Yes, he’s very obviously in a league of his own. That’s beyond obvious at this point, it takes some OL lvl mental gymnastics to think otherwise.

Cheers. Not gonna lie, it’s a bit terrifying.

 

[scribers]

Correct. Yes, he’s very obviously in a league of his own. That’s beyond obvious at this point, it takes some OL lvl mental gymnastics to think otherwise.

Cheers. Not gonna lie, it’s a bit terrifying.

First night of no sleep is the worst. Which is straight away after delivery. Then each night after that is an eyebrow thickness less worse.

 

[hayneplane]

Important takes from Wellens:
- He didn't want to race the National RR because he believes it isn't a ideal prep for the Tour (extra day of travelling)
- He said he normally feels he is the worst rider because everyone in UAE (those who will race the Tour) is doing their best numbers and flying right now.
- he is climbing better than ever

What I'm thinking is: UAE will destroy the Tour in the first mountain stage. If no one crashes, this is what I think. Pogacar will win the Tour there.

Gregário de Tadej Pogacar não esconde boa forma do esloveno antes do Tour "estou dizendo isso para assustar? Não posso dizer muito o que Tadej fez"

Agora que os campeonatos nacionais na Europa ficaram para trás, o foco volta-se totalmente para o Tour de France.

girodociclismo.com.br

The first point is an interesting one and rebuts a few things about riders in UAE being all about themselves first and foremost with team goals a very distant second.

 

[Cycling111]

I read that Almeida gave an interview and talks about the podium as his goal. The same mistake Ayuso made last year, talking about his personal goal.

If Adam's condition is as bad as it was at the Giro and they need Almeida´s help, he'll have a conflict of interest like Ayuso.

We won't read Jorgenson or Simon Yates talking about their Tour de France goal.

 

[Peyroteo94]

I read that Almeida gave an interview and talks about the podium as his goal. The same mistake Ayuso made last year, talking about his personal goal.

If Adam's condition is as bad as it was at the Giro and they need Almeida´s help, he'll have a conflict of interest like Ayuso.

We won't read Jorgenson or Simon Yates talking about their Tour de France goal.

No, he won't. He is loyal and Hautacam will give us a clar idea of that. Never compare him with Ayuso again, please. I get migraines when I read things like this.

 

[scribers]

Ayuso pretends he doesn’t have the legs until it’s time to follow the selection. Haha

 

[Oldman]

I said he can't do a worse TT in the Tour compared to the one he did in the Dauphiné.

Considering the Dauphine TT looked like exactly what he wanted it to be I'd say it's within his power to tank another.
He won't. It's important now.

 

[Oldman]

We will see. Changing position isn't that difficult to perform but the problem is obviously how to maintain good levels of power and comfort. Remco is comfortable and powerful enough in a very aerodynamic position (which seem more natural for him).

Remco's position is perfect for his body, height and power. He seldom has to move at all and that helps every facet of a TT. Pogacar is that much taller and appears to change position enough to work against himself.
I'm sure he and his coaching staff know it and try to find a solution that works. Problem is the size differential and aerodynamic advantage Remco has mastered can't be easily beat. Not if Evenepoel is fresh enough to hit that comfort level. I can't name many riders that looked that natural, in that position.

 

[SHAD0W93]

First night of no sleep is the worst. Which is straight away after delivery. Then each night after that is an eyebrow thickness less worse.

First three months are basically no sleep. Everyday we would say we survived.

 

[Oldman]

First three months are basically no sleep. Everyday we would say we survived.

It's that way until....they decide to quit bugging you. Then they hit teen years and it gets worse. Upside;
when they have kids it's like a revenge angel makes you ease up and forget your kid's trying years.

 

[SHAD0W93]

It's that way until....they decide to quit bugging you. Then they hit teen years and it gets worse. Upside;
when they have kids it's like a revenge angel makes you ease up and forget your kid's trying years.

That’s when you can give them back so they can deal with the meltdown lol

 

[scribers]

I figure the day will come they have to wipe my arse

 

[SHAD0W93]

I figure the day will come they have to wipe my arse

Most enter this world with people taking care of us and leave being taken care of. If I get to that point or worse I personally don’t want to live anymore. Though there are some 80-100 year olds that look like they’re in their 50-60s. The there’s 50-60 year olds who look like they’re 80 plus or 20-30 year olds that look 50 plus (unfortunately from their own doing most of the time).

 

[scribers]

And then there’s Keith Richards