Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[Cycling111]

I'm pleasantly surprised that Pogacar is still following cycling - and not just when Urška is participating.

Some are hoping for it. Pogacar can't say anything. They criticized him even when he was the victim for a change of direction... and some even criticized him for uploading that video to help Johanssen.He can't say anything; everything will be criticized. If Pogacar said what Jorgenson said, a stupid thing, he would be demonized.

 

[Netserk]

Some are hoping for it. Pogacar can't say anything. They criticized him even when he was the victim for a change of direction... and some even criticized him for uploading that video to help Johanssen.He can't say anything; everything will be criticized. If Pogacar said what Jorgenson said, a stupid thing, he would be demonized.

Do you think his demonisation makes it unsafe for him to train around Monaco? That he truly suffers from what gets written in remote corners of the internet such as this thread?

 

[Monsi]

Him being vocal about a cycling incident that he has no part in is generally a good thing, I prefer riders to be outspoken and have an opinion instead of being bland and boring.
Having said that, of all incidents this year, defending DVP and the deviation yesterday is probably the worst hill to die on lol. Is he friends with Van Poppel or was he annoyed about Narvaez losing 2 more bonus seconds to Waerenskjold due to the relegation? Bit weird to get agitated about a random stage in a .1 race.

I think it’s more that he’s definitely pissed about Narvaez losing more bonus seconds because of the relegation and because of that, it is almost impossible for Narvaez to win GC.

 

[Salvarani]

Do you think his demonisation makes it unsafe for him to train around Monaco? That he truly suffers from what gets written in remote corners of the internet such as this thread?

It doesnt make it right.

 

[Salvarani]

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Great insight.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

I think it’s more that he’s definitely pissed about Narvaez losing more bonus seconds because of the relegation and because of that, it is almost impossible for Narvaez to win GC.

Narvaez has had his fair share of luck in this race.

 

[Cycling111]

No wonder Matxin and Gianetti were desperate for Pogacar to be in the Vuelta.

It's Vingegaard's first win, aside from the Algarve time trial. He finished second to Pogacar in the rest of the stages. Almeida and Ayuso have nothing to do, no matter how much smoke they throw at them.

Ayuso especially disappointing. He's good at these finishes. I expected him to be second.

I wonder if they'll cry so much about dominance this Vuelta. Vingegaard, without Pogacar, can win all 10 mountain stages. They're easy to control, single- mountain stages.

 

[CatchyH]

No wonder Matxin and Gianetti were desperate for Pogacar to be in the Vuelta.

It's Vingegaard's first win, aside from the Algarve time trial. He finished second to Pogacar in the rest of the stages. Almeida and Ayuso have nothing to do, no matter how much smoke they throw at them.

Ayuso especially disappointing. He's good at these finishes. I expected him to be second.

I wonder if they'll cry so much about dominance this Vuelta. Vingegaard, without Pogacar, can win all 10 mountain stages. They're easy to control, single- mountain stages.

Vingegaard winning everything this GT was a given. There's too much of a gap between the big two and the rest of the pretenders. All the question marks around his form with the little sickness he had was just wishful thinking. Ayuso and Almeida are simply not in that league.

 

[Charlyghoul]

Just another example of how weak these era is outside of the two big ponies

 

[Peyroteo94]

Vingegaard can win 6 stages easily in this Vuelta

 

[Peyroteo94]

Just another example of how weak these era is outside of the two big ponies

Or they are really outlier riders.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Probably rode harder than the Vuelta peloton today.

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[Kazistuta]

Some are hoping for it. Pogacar can't say anything. They criticized him even when he was the victim for a change of direction... and some even criticized him for uploading that video to help Johanssen.He can't say anything; everything will be criticized. If Pogacar said what Jorgenson said, a stupid thing, he would be demonized.

Do you really belive Jorgenson said that, based on some random x'er/instaposter?

 

[ChewbaccaDefense]

Johannessen had plenty of space to move further ahead before he cut in front of Pogacar. Johannessen was level with Pogacar, knew he was there, and continued to right to his right and cut in front of Pogacar too soon. DVP was ahead of Brennan and used Wærenskjold to shut the door on anyone that could be coming which many sprinters do with either another rider or barrier. The jury response is from Brennan and Wærenskjold almost crashing.

Jorgenson is on the team of Pogacar’s direct rival, of course it would be thought of differently. Honestly wouldn’t be surprised if UAE or Visma didn’t stoop to that level, but Visma was the team causing issues with feeds and bottles and it isn’t the first edition it happened (just the first to the extent it was).

None of that is true. His move completely and unintentionally caught Pog's wheel. DVP intentionally closed Brennan.

As to the conspiracy theory about Visma hiring hitmen...well...that's an interesting take...

As Rou said, I want to see him race more, and leave commentary on races he isn't in, to others better suited to comment.

 

[SHAD0W93]

None of that is true. His move completely and unintentionally caught Pog's wheel. DVP intentionally closed Brennan.

The overhead shows the whole thing occur. You can argue and probably accurate that Johannessen didn’t want to crash Pogacar on purpose. But what I stated happened. They were beside each other and Johannessen kept going to his right at a sharp angle and cut in front of Pogacar while Pogacar kept going in the same lane/direction.

From 00:41.

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DVP was intentional, but you can’t say that he knew Brennan was there. Without the almost crash DVP most likely doesn’t get relegated. 100% deserved to be relegated and maybe sprinters will stop doing it as it happens extremely frequently.

 

[Oldman]

Do you think his demonisation makes it unsafe for him to train around Monaco? That he truly suffers from what gets written in remote corners of the internet such as this thread?

Monaco has to be the safest place for a rich athlete to train. Everyone around him is richer and more liable should they cause an accident. He wins either way but might want more privacy. I'd head up to steep parts of Switzerland/France Alps for that.

 

[Netserk]

but you can’t say that he knew Brennan was there.

He looked under his legs twice to make sure where the rider behind him went.

 

[Peyroteo94]

6 weeks later and people still blame Pogacar for a crash where he didn't make any deviation.

 

[Cycling111]

6 weeks later and people still blame Pogacar for a crash where he didn't make any deviation.

In six weeks, we've seen the hypocrisy of some contradicting themselves.

The worst thing is that they blamed him for being the victim of an accident, and now they're asking how he would feel if he were the victim of an accident due to a deviation LOL

Everyone has their preferences. But hating a cyclist to the point of attacking him even after he's a victim of an accident and demonizing him now for that Instagram comment is the most hypocritical thing.

 

[Peyroteo94]

In six weeks, we've seen the hypocrisy of some contradicting themselves.

The worst thing is that they blamed him for being the victim of an accident, and now they're asking how he would feel if he were the victim of an accident due to a deviation LOL

Everyone has their preferences. But hating a cyclist to the point of attacking him even after he's a victim of an accident and demonizing him now for that Instagram comment is the most hypocritical thing.

The hypocrisy starts when we are now talking about intention. Pogacar has some fault because he was on the radio and THJ didn't make that deviation on purpose (according some here. Maybe it was a ghost who made that deviation...).

So following the same logic. Can I blame half of the peloton for going down after this stupid move from Maciejuk? I'm pretty sure that deviation wasn't made on purpose.

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[QueenStagiaire]

The hypocrisy starts when we are now talking about intention. Pogacar has some fault because he was on the radio and THJ didn't make that deviation on purpose (according some here. Maybe it was a ghost who made that deviation...).

So following the same logic. Can I blame half of the peloton for going down after this stupid move from Maciejuk? I'm pretty sure that deviation wasn't made on purpose.

View: https://youtube.com/shorts/RNEfy8Le-Ss?si=FVRp434vRBs0TsgU

View: https://youtu.be/cXQ4iufWl3Q?si=g44fFHmyYavob2Rw

What a wild strawman.

 

[Lequack]

So what is he doing nowadays?

 

[Peyroteo94]

So what is he doing nowadays?

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[Charlyghoul]

Road bikes have some funky lookin front ends these days

 

[Peyroteo94]

He is doing his usual zone 2 rides with NP around 290 watts.