Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[Salvarani]

Ohh okay. When I look at that stage 6 profile, I just can't think of anything other than a Pogacar long-ranger from Tourmalet. Especially since it's the only big mountain stage in the first week and next big mountain stage after that is on stage 14.

Feel free to look at the route in detail when you can.

I understand that point, but also how smart is it to do a long ranger on stage 6? I just dont know, but they will think about it. They will weigh their options.

But if someone can pull it off, it would be Pog.

 

[Cycling111]

Doing a long range attack on Tourmalet, it is clearly the best option. Try to end the Tour as soon as possible. For some reason Vingegaard tried the same 2 years ago and it was on stage 6 too.
Stages 7 and 8 are flat stages so it's an easy decision to go all in on Tourmalet specially when you have a team able to destroy the field on Aspin and in the first half of Tourmalet.
Pogacar will probably realize this and will attack. He can go in cruise control until stage 15 (without even attacking on stage 11).

Pogacar´s wrist injury.

 

[yaf2]

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A nice tdf course for pogi as always but uae have to mix it up with their squad next year. With the TTT & also polit & sivakov being average this year + soler somehow always holding his best legs for his home race vuelta the team needs a refresh. Imo the team should look like this:
Pog, Almeida, Vine, Yates, Narvaez, Mcnulty, Wellens & Vermeersch

 

[Peyroteo94]

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A nice tdf course for pogi as always but uae have to mix it up with their squad next year. With the TTT & also polit & sivakov being average this year + soler somehow always holding his best legs for his home race vuelta the team needs a refresh. Imo the team should look like this:
Pog, Almeida, Vine, Yates, Narvaez, Mcnulty, Wellens & Vermeersch

Politt and Soler are locked. Soler born in Barcelona, stage 2 will go to his home town. Pogacar likes him so easy decision.
Politt is Pogacar's body guard. He will be there too.
But I agree with you, they should mix a little bit.

 

[yaf2]

Politt and Soler are locked. Soler born in Barcelona, stage 2 will go to his home town. Pogacar likes him so easy decision.
Politt is Pogacar's body guard. He will be there too.
But I agree with you, they should mix a little bit.

What is born in home town, bodyguard blabla... this is a top end competition sport which u should get ur place on merit

 

[Cycling111]

Soler shouldn't return to the Tour after what he did this year. He used the Tour to train for the Vuelta.

 

[Peyroteo94]

What is born in home town, bodyguard blabla... this is a top end competition sport which u should get ur place on merit

See Contador's teams after his win in the 2009 TdF.
But in 8 months we will see his team.

 

[Salvarani]

What is born in home town, bodyguard blabla... this is a top end competition sport which u should get ur place on merit

Its a bad take, to say thats why they would be in the team.

Pollit is the best they have for the flat and he is very experienced.

Soler is very useful for the mountains and can ride the flat in the valleys. Can consistently make it back on descents to keep being helpful. Or go in the break. Ton of experience at this point and so many GTs under his belt.

Sivakov will for the same purpose most likely be a part of the team. Just a very good and strong dom.

I really dont see much happening regarding Pogs Tour team and who will be going. It makes no sense to really change anything.

The only part changing might be Del Toro instead of Almeida. We will see.

 

[Netserk]

I think the biggest pieces will have to be laid first. Does Pogi plan to ride the Vuelta or not? If not, who should lead the team in the Vuelta? After the Giro, will Almeida aim for a podium in the Tour or rather go for the Vuelta? Will Del Toro ride one or two GTs, and will he be happy to share leadership with Almeida in the Giro?

 

[Peyroteo94]

I think McNulty or Vine should be in the Tour next year. They are very good TT riders and can climb very well. For example Yates or Sivakov can be out IMO.

 

[Cycling111]

I think McNulty or Vine should be in the Tour next year. They are very good TT riders and can climb very well. For example Yates or Sivakov can be out IMO.

It's unlikely that Vine won´t be involved in an accident on French roads.

 

[Peyroteo94]

It's unlikely that Vine won´t be involved in an accident on French roads.

You have a point but if he races like Yates and stay behind, he will probably not crash.

 

[yaf2]

Its a bad take, to say thats why they would be in the team.

Pollit is the best they have for the flat and he is very experienced.

Soler is very useful for the mountains and can ride the flat in the valleys. Can consistently make it back on descents to keep being helpful. Or go in the break. Ton of experience at this point and so many GTs under his belt.

Sivakov will for the same purpose most likely be a part of the team. Just a very good and strong dom.

I really dont see much happening regarding Pogs Tour team and who will be going. It makes no sense to really change anything.

The only part changing might be Del Toro instead of Almeida. We will see.

Polit has passed his best years & its clear F. Vermeersch would be an upgrade. For sivakov for a 2nd year running he had an ok tour but not like what he is in last year vuelta, worlds, lombardy & this year he peaked towards the last part of the season and i dont think this is coincidence rather him wanting to be at his best on his "freedom" races. I might agree on soler though

 

[Shortcut]

Politt was bad this year?? I mean i get it for Yates, Sivakov and Soler but Politt? Anyway-Politt,Wellens, Narvaez, Soler, Vine,Del Toro, Almeida, Pogi would be my dream team. Yates, Sivakov, Novak and Mcnulty will be there for Pogi at Vuelta...

 

[Peyroteo94]

Polit has passed his best years & its clear F. Vermeersch would be an upgrade. For sivakov for a 2nd year running he had an ok tour but not like what he is in last year vuelta, worlds, lombardy & this year he peaked towards the last part of the season and i dont think this is coincidence rather him wanting to be at his best on his "freedom" races. I might agree on soler though

Sivakov and Yates were the riders unable to do their job properly. Soler and Politt were doing their job well enough.

 

[scribers]

Politt might not be a factor in leading one day races (was he really?), but the guy can drive a train. And honestly, the way he chases down breaks is kinda scary.

 

[yaf2]

Politt might not be a factor in leading one day races (was he really?), but the guy can drive a train. And honestly, the way he chases down breaks is kinda scary.

As long as i remember from the tour polit came good towards the last 10 days of the tour & he was missing for the 1st 10 days where he was needed most. Even on last 10 days uae could never get close to certain breakaways. On hautacam stage it was thanks to visma but afterwards i dont think his team was outstanding in chasing breakaways apart from the excellent wellens. Thats why i'm leaning to vermeersch who i think has more in doing that specific work.

 

[Salvarani]

Politt might not be a factor in leading one day races (was he really?), but the guy can drive a train. And honestly, the way he chases down breaks is kinda scary.

Thats what he is needed for and he does a very good job at it.

 

[Peyroteo94]

As long as i remember from the tour polit came good towards the last 10 days of the tour & he was missing for the 1st 10 days where he was needed most. Even on last 10 days uae could never get close to certain breakaways. On hautacam stage it was thanks to visma but afterwards i dont think his team was outstanding in chasing breakaways apart from the excellent wellens. Thats why i'm leaning to vermeersch who i think has more in doing that specific work.

That was Sivakov who didn't bring his best level to the TdF. Stage 14 is a prime example of that.

 

[Breh]

I think vibes are more important anyway

 

[Tanakka]

It just makes more sense as the quality is usually better and it is good to see where your rivals are.
Why would he care more about TdS? I dont think it being 5 days is a huge selling point for him.
From many standpoints, Dauphine is the best race to choose. Whether he cares or not.
Racing TdS simply because of a collecting perspective... ok. Up to him.
But from a prep perspective Dauphine makes more sense.

Yeah, from a collecting perspective.
Other than that I don't think he cares about TdS, but I don't think he cares that much about Dauphiné either.

Indeed, the biggest factor has always been that 'from a prep perspective' Dauphine was generally considered more suited.
Let's not forget, though, that next year's TdF is quite backloaded.

Tour de France 2026

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[Peyroteo94]

Yeah, from a collecting perspective.
Other than that I don't think he cares about TdS, but I don't think he cares that much about Dauphiné either.

Indeed, the biggest factor has always been that 'from a prep perspective' Dauphine was generally considered more suited.
Let's not forget, though, that next year's TdF is quite backloaded.

Tour de France 2026

www.procyclingstats.com

I think it will all depend on Vingegaard. If he is not racing the Giro, Pogacar will race the Dauphiné.
If he is racing the Giro, Pogacar will go to Suisse.

 

[Monsi]

I think it will all depend on Vingegaard. If he is not racing the Giro, Pogacar will race the Dauphiné.
If he is racing the Giro, Pogacar will go to Suisse.

Not really. I don’t get why the decision to race either Dauphine or Suisse would depend on Vingegaard. It just depends on where Pogi feels he can get the best prep for the Tour. Or maybe it would just depend on vibes.

 

[Salvarani]

Not really. I don’t get why the decision to race either Dauphine or Suisse would depend on Vingegaard. It just depends on where Pogi feels he can get the best prep for the Tour. Or maybe it would just depend on vibes.

Yup, exactly.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Not really. I don’t get why the decision to race either Dauphine or Suisse would depend on Vingegaard. It just depends on where Pogi feels he can get the best prep for the Tour. Or maybe it would just depend on vibes.

Because racing the Dauphiné is all about "feeling his rivals". If Vingegaard isn't there, it doesn't matter and he can win another one week stage race. He said he wants to win all major one week races.