Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[scribers]

My unrealistic schedule :

MSR RVV P-R LBL GIRO-TDF-VEULTA WC LOMBARDI

 

[AmRacer]

My unrealistic schedule :

MSR, RVV, P-R, LBL, Romandie, GIRO-TDF-VUELTA, WC, LOMBARDI

Fixed it

 

[scribers]

Just for that I’m adding SB, dofnee, and gravel wc

 

[Monsi]

Unrealistic schedule:
TDU, Omloop, MSR, E3, GW, Roubaix, Brabantse Pijl
Suisse, TDF, San Sebastian, Vuelta
WC, EC, Gran Piemonte, Lombardia

 

[scribers]

Unrealistic schedule:
TDU, Omloop, MSR, E3, GW, Roubaix, Brabantse Pijl
Suisse, TDF, San Sebastian, Vuelta
WC, EC, Gran Piemonte, Lombardia

Pogi would fancy this!

 

[James M]

So race summary, could mention MSR too, it was a really good edition for once. PR to obv. But RVV was the best race of the season to me.

Everything was perfect: ultimate battle, the weather, completely packed with people on rooftops, the cathedral of cycling. Intriguing with several attacks throughout, with all the favourites still together at the final Kwaremont.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdAdhZy4M6w

 

[BubbaChuck]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_3HHbi_xFk&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Ftrainingground.guru%2F&source_ve_path=MjM4NTE

 

[BubbaChuck]

"We modelled his physical capabilities and our strategy was bringing him to that moment his weakness was clear. We brought him to that point that he collapsed." Sure,only luck that he was semi-serius.

 

[RedheadDane]

My unrealistic schedule:
Every* WT race!
Come on, be a little ambitious.

*Some exceptions in case of races overlapping.

 

[scribers]

Overlapping races are key to unrealistic and pogi

 

[scribers]

New Data Analysis Confirms Pogačar as a Physiological GOAT

A record VO2 Max and insane power: Tour de France calculations shed fresh light on Pogačar's dominance and the wild progression of modern performance.

velo.outsideonline.com

 

[vappaxbipmv]

New Data Analysis Confirms Pogačar as a Physiological GOAT

A record VO2 Max and insane power: Tour de France calculations shed fresh light on Pogačar's dominance and the wild progression of modern performance.

velo.outsideonline.com

Read the corresponding study, there were A LOT of (incorrect) assumptions

 

[hayneplane]

Read the corresponding study, there were A LOT of (incorrect) assumptions

Still makes it possible to compare between the performances given the same metrics were used

 

[vappaxbipmv]

Still makes it possible to compare between the performances given the same metrics were used

But the input info wasn't correct, on Couillole (stage 20 in 2024) he clearly wasn't going all out and Peyragudes was an MTT. So you're already comparing incomparable

 

[Poursuivant]

In the EC jersey! Also, the food looks great.

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He is doing a bit of jogging here, has he ever said what his 5k/10k PB is? I know some cyclists have got excellent times like Yates, Mollema, Dumoulin

 

[Krzysztof_O]

He is doing a bit of jogging here, has he ever said what his 5k/10k PB is? I know some cyclists have got excellent times like Yates, Mollema, Dumoulin

Before the Tour 2023 he was running uphill in Nice as he couldn't train outdoors. Other than that I don't recall him running. I don't know if he ever ran full-gas on flat so probably there's no decent PB by him. BTW going full gas on a 5 km distance could be more dangerous due to speed/intensity (risk of an injury): those guys can be almost newbies but still can run super-fast like semi-pros (so there's an increased risk).

 

[Poursuivant]

Yer I imagine they are told to limit how much all out running efforts they do. Would be curious to see what Pog is capable of if he tried.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Yer I imagine they are told to limit how much all out running efforts they do. Would be curious to see what Pog is capable of if he tried.

Dumo managed 10k in 32' or so I suppose it's reachable for Pog. I even suspected that Pog (or especially Vingo due to his weight) could get close to 30' after like half a year of training but who knows maybe Dumo is actually more talented running-wise so my guess is totally off.

However, It's more likely Pogacar (or Vingegaard) would be able to reach elite level in vertical km uphill run (after a few months of training). It's much slower (on a 30+ % slope one can run 6 kph and approach VAM of 2000 m/h) so it's almost all about the engine (not the efficiency) plus the competition is likely weaker than in case of flat running.

 

[Cycling111]

No TDU and no UAE Tour .

https://twitter.com/x/status/1992005971468792065

View: https://x.com/cirogazzetta/status/1992005971468792065?t=Yn6Ktyan4X2Iz56rW5zaKg&s=19

 

[Cycling111]

I already said that everything said on the last day of the Tour needs to be put into context, and that afterwards he'd say something different.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1992159945782100031

View: https://x.com/cirogazzetta/status/1992159945782100031?t=K7GYMFsOJCLzhelnipdFsw&s=19

 

[Monsi]

I already said that everything said on the last day of the Tour needs to be put into context, and that afterwards he'd say something different.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1992159945782100031

View: https://x.com/cirogazzetta/status/1992159945782100031?t=K7GYMFsOJCLzhelnipdFsw&s=19

As expected. I never really considered that he would retire immediately post-LA Olympics. I always thought he would honor his current contract. Depending on his motivation, I think he'll have one more extension after 2030 before retiring.

 

[KZD]

I already said that everything said on the last day of the Tour needs to be put into context, and that afterwards he'd say something different.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1992159945782100031

View: https://x.com/cirogazzetta/status/1992159945782100031?t=K7GYMFsOJCLzhelnipdFsw&s=19

Hopefully we will get to watch the GOAT riding for as long as possible.

 

[scribers]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1991853804988555392

View: https://x.com/cirogazzetta/status/1991853804988555392?s=46&t=X4NqNG7J5ZQ-MxPOi53ECQ


Can remco stay with the cipressa selection if even well positioned?

 

[vappaxbipmv]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1991853804988555392

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Can remco stay with the cipressa selection if even well positioned?

I would think yes, although if he isn't in a good position coming into Cipressa, he has no chance. He can be a valuable ally in the flat part afterwards. I expect him to get dropped somewhere on Poggio, either on the climb or on descent

 

[James M]

I already said that everything said on the last day of the Tour needs to be put into context, and that afterwards he'd say something different.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1992159945782100031

View: https://x.com/cirogazzetta/status/1992159945782100031?t=K7GYMFsOJCLzhelnipdFsw&s=19

Imo he never said so either, and that was just people jumping to conclusions to me, arrest me if im wrong tho. Didn’t he say that in 28 he would maybe start thinking about when in the future it would suit him, which always was different from retiring in 2028.

Anyway, I saw Urska recently, 2–3 weeks ago say she would ride until 2028/29 at least, and Tadej a few more years than here. Anyway nightmare news for every pro cyclist out there.