Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[Krzysztof_O]

It's the same format as Paris-Nice. But the team will need to perform well to avoid starting at a significant disadvantage in the final stages.

I think the difference in the TTT on that 15 km flat section will be moderate at most and then Pog will reduce it at the end. Final stages? Pogacar will want to decide the race on stage 6 already and I don't know if anyone will be able to weather the storm (Vingo might).

 

[Cycling111]

I think the difference in the TTT on that 15 km flat section will be moderate at most and then Pog will reduce it at the end. Final stages? Pogacar will want to decide the race on stage 6 already and I don't know if anyone will be able to weather the storm (Vingo might).

Sorry, I meant the end of that TTT.

 

[Berniece]

I wouldn't be too afraid of the TTT. What's the worst case scenario, that he loses 20s to Vingegaard or Evenepoel? Does that really matter?

 

[James M]

What kind of TTT will it be? Each rider with indivicual time? If so Pogi can smash the last two hills (one with superdoms probably) and limit the losses to absolute minimum.

Citing reasons as Feb, no altitude, and also no one besides Nuggets participating who also didnt ride full today what are we supposed to say? Bsides its understandable why people get surprised when emotions are this all over the place

They will probably end up winning it like in the Vuelta. But if not no one should cry for them, and who cares theyre not there to win the TTT anyway. Besides I reckon the top teams will probably hover around a gap of 15 seconds

 

[James M]

Imo if Ineos decides to, they can win that TTT easily if they choose to heavily prioritize it even if its technical and the gaps will be small.

I also think Lildl will contend they have big units there for pedersen which himself are strong in TTT. I want their last two spots to be Sobrero and Söderqvist (tho I know and certaintly dont expect Söderqvist to be chosen but yeah)

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Citing reasons as Feb, no altitude, and also no one besides Nuggets participating who also didnt ride full today what are we supposed to say? Bsides its understandable why people get surprised when emotions are this all over the place

They will probably end up winning it like in the Vuelta. But if not no one should cry for them, and who cares theyre not there to win the TTT anyway. Besides I reckon the top teams will probably hover around a gap of 15 seconds

As @Berniece says those small margins likely won't matter anyway and Pogi can smash the race on stage 6 already.

 

[Cycling111]

I wouldn't be too afraid of the TTT. What's the worst case scenario, that he loses 20s to Vingegaard or Evenepoel? Does that really matter?

Yes, of course. I'm not saying he´s going to lose the Tour for that TTT. I was simply referring to the stage and starting the Tour with a good feeling.

 

[Berniece]

Yes, of course. I'm not saying he´s going to lose the Tour for that TTT. I was simply referring to the stage and starting the Tour with a good feeling.

Oh, sure, but winning TT is difficult anyway for UAE against those powerhouses.

 

[James M]

As @Berniece says those small margins likely won't matter anyway and Pogi can smash the race on stage 6 already.

Indeed honestly wouldnt suprise me if top 4 howers around 15 sec its technical lets see. Wonder if Ineos will prioritize it heavily knowing they can win (since we dont know the team yet) since UAE and Pog will lobotomize this Tour

 

[Cycling111]

@Krzysztof_O
Do you expect many differences at this stage?

 

[Krzysztof_O]

@Krzysztof_O
Do you expect many differences at this stage?

If UAE set a brutal pace on Tourmalet then the second half of it will be carnage (see how gaps exploded in 2023). The peleton will be in shreds and there will be no organized chase (descent and that climb afterwards don't help). Pogacar can solo to the finish with a good margin. People who want a competitive race should hope someone (Vingo?) is able to match him, otherwise it will be the second Hautacam.

 

[Tim Cahill]

I wouldn't be too afraid of the TTT. What's the worst case scenario, that he loses 20s to Vingegaard or Evenepoel? Does that really matter?

Also a TTT is just weird, it's usually just who has practiced it more and absolutely nobody knows how to ride them, everyone will be hyping it and the gaps will be 10 seconds and Jayco will win for some reason.

 

[Netserk]

there can be huge gaps. just recall 2023

and back then they also only went full full at la mongie when keldermerckx took over

 

[Cycling111]

Also a TTT is just weird, it's usually just who has practiced it more and absolutely nobody knows how to ride them, everyone will be hyping it and the gaps will be 10 seconds and Jayco will win for some reason.

If it were a traditional TTT, I'd give Jayco a chance; they're very good. But in the Paris-Nice format, a good team with a stronger leader than O'Connor will win. Most likely Remco or Ayuso. It wouldn't be a surprise if Vingegaard wins ; Visma will have some good rouleurs.

But I'd say Remco or Ayuso because they have the best TTT teams and individually they're better than O'Connor.

 

[James M]

People who want a competitive race should hope someone (Vingo?) is able to match him, otherwise it will be the second Hautacam.

Bingo. Anyone hoping for a close Tour early will already be fuming here(unless Jonas magicaly turns it around). Pogi alone on 3.7 gradients vs others most likely seperated 1 by 1 at the start atleast will rip the gap to pieces.

Honestly dont know why they chose to put this on stage 6 when theyre so desperate to keep the race close for a while.

 

[Cycling111]

Bingo. Anyone hoping for a close Tour early will already be fuming here(unless Jonas magicaly turns it around). Pogi alone on 3.7 gradients vs others most likely seperated 1 by 1 at the start atleast will rip the gap to pieces.

Honestly dont know why they chose to put this on stage 6 when theyre so desperate to keep the race close for a while.

Because they assume that in Gavarnie-Gédre, there won't be big gaps.

The route is very weak this year. It's understandable that they want Seixas to go. Until the final stages, everything will be very close for the podium, without collapses.

 

[Salvarani]

I wouldn't be too afraid of the TTT. What's the worst case scenario, that he loses 20s to Vingegaard or Evenepoel? Does that really matter?

Yeah, but apparently UAE cant TT now and the world is falling apart.

Cant wait to see and hear whats wrong on the next episode. To be continued, I guess.

 

[Red Rick]

there can be huge gaps. just recall 2023

and back then they also only went full full at la mongie when keldermerckx took over

Tbh I'm very convinced G2 just completely gave up and that's why they took 2 minutes in 5km.

 

[Netserk]

Tbh I'm very convinced G2 just completely gave up and that's why they took 2 minutes in 5km.

i also think many this year will have second thoughts before they light their legs on fire

a lipowitz potato chase could be quite costly