Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[Krzysztof_O]

This year he was faster on both climbs and the wind on Cipressa was less favorable. On Poggio he got a big assist from the motorbikes, but a 10 second difference on a sub 6 minute climb is still half a world.

I will still make a post about the watts in my climbing thread, but I am not quite finished yet.

His Poggio was less consistent last year as it was basically a shootout vs MVP (who also attacked at the end). It was more start/stop (but the effort must have been gigantic), it's really impossible to compare it to this year. This year he focused on pacing more to distance MVP.

As for Cipressa agreed that this year conditions were worse to attack and to achieve great time.

 

[Peyresourde]

His Poggio was less consistent last year as it was basically a shootout vs MVP (who also attacked at the end). It was more start/stop (but the effort must have been gigantic), it's really impossible to compare it to this year. This year he focused on pacing more to distance MVP.

As for Cipressa agreed that this year conditions were worse to attack and to achieve great time.

Yes, this is true and impossible to incorporate accurately into my calculation. The pace this year was less stop-start, but still not consistent. In the 500m flat section of the Poggio he probably pushed only 5 w/kg or something like that and he still surged/attacked multiple times.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Yes, this is true and impossible to incorporate accurately into my calculation. The pace this year was less stop-start, but still not consistent. In the 500m flat section of the Poggio he probably pushed only 5 w/kg or something like that and he still surged/attacked multiple times.

There is a parameter called normalized power. It takes into account intervals and calculates upped watts equivalent. I don't know how strictly it's associated with physiology (of maybe it's just a mathematical adjustment working "more or less" and potentially introducing even more errors). Anyway, it's impossible to calculate without knowing detailed power chart (detailed segment division would be needed).

 

[James M]

Only in Zurich I saw this happiness. Incredible to see this was probably his main goal of the season.

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Hard to imagine how many times hes reconned it over the years i think. Next‑level determination. Says alot about Pogacar when he is this loved by his peers as we can see.

 

[Peyresourde]

There is a parameter called normalized power. It takes into account intervals and calculates upped watts equivalent. I don't know how strictly it's associated with physiology (of maybe it's just a mathematical adjustment working "more or less" and potentially introducing even more errors). Anyway, it's impossible to calculate without knowing detailed power chart (detailed segment division would be needed).

Normalized Power is a generalized method to calculate the theoretical watts a rider could have pushed with consistent pacing, but of course this difference varies depending on the specific rider (type).
Since I don't have access to Pogacar's power data and sequencing a climb into 30 second segment is impossible to do with video analysis, I can't do anything about it except for guessing.

 

[James M]

This year he was faster on both climbs and the wind on Cipressa was less favorable.

plus pre-Cipressa turbulences and what it implies treshold wice and essentially extending the 'climb' so to speak. (maybe to a lesser degree to him since he was always behind florian or nuggets before bomba)

 

[hayneplane]

This year he was faster on both climbs and the wind on Cipressa was less favorable. On Poggio he got a big assist from the motorbikes, but a 10 second difference on a sub 6 minute climb is still half a world.

I will still make a post about the watts in my climbing thread, but I am not quite finished yet.

Based on that performance and his previous MO for RVV I think it fair to expect a thermonuclear performance on Kwaremont.