Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[Rechtschreibfehler]

3 stages back on the menu. His win rate in this schedule is mindblowing.

Easily 4. Could even try for 5 if he want's to.

 

[Coppi-Bartali]

What's most impressive is that he did it all alone. The second UAE was Sivakov, 30 seconds behind group.

There were three Red Bull in that group, two Ineos , and five Astana. Astana lives by hunting for points.

 

[Coppi-Bartali]

He was cooked in PR. Pidcock is a very decent sprinter and was in Pogacar's wheel most of the time.

Pidcock has suddenly started to be undervalued this year as a fast rider when he won an Amstel against Van Aert in a sprint (Pidcock won).
He also won another Amstel against fast riders like Hirschi, easily outsprinting them. And he has demonstrated his speed in other races.

A sprint in Catalunya was taken as a reference point after arriving "cooked" from San Remo while his rivals were arriving from the altitude camp.

 

[Lorzenz08]

Pogi definitely didn't enjoy his sprint loss to WVA in Roubaix. Even if he said he had spaghetti legs.

In his post race interview after LBL he said in between Redoute and RaF he was thinking how to manage the finish if it ends up in a sprint because he didn't want to live an " humiliation like against Van Aert ".
So he felt humiliated in PR.

 

[Coppi-Bartali]

Pogi definitely didn't enjoy his sprint loss to WVA in Roubaix. Even if he said he had spaghetti legs.

In his post race interview after LBL he said in between Redoute and RaF he was thinking how to manage the finish if it ends up in a sprint because he didn't want to live an " humiliation like against Van Aert ".
So he felt humiliated in PR.

 

[Extinction]

I think he is better than what he showed yesterday. But there is no doubt a peak Pogacar would go 2' faster.

Exactly, he's not at peak and has two months to get there. He certainly doesn't want to be at peak now for the Alpine ascents.

 

[Revelation]

Pogacar already started "trolling" due to boredom in stage races last year and will only increase it in the future, especially if he knows no one is even somewhat close, like here. Yesterday pulling the whole climb and by far the most after, then destroying the sprint with basically no fatigue, today visibly refusing to attack and then being the first responder to about 14 attacks, before again destroying the sprint with basically no fatigue.

There is no doubt that if yesterday was the last stage and he was somehow behind, he would've gone 1+ minute faster on the climb.

 

[Rechtschreibfehler]

Pogacar already started "trolling" due to boredom in stage races last year and will only increase it in the future, especially if he knows no one is even somewhat close, like here. Yesterday pulling the whole climb and by far the most after, then destroying the sprint with basically no fatigue, today visibly refusing to attack and then being the first responder to about 14 attacks, before again destroying the sprint with basically no fatigue.

There is no doubt that if yesterday was the last stage and he was somehow behind, he would've gone 1+ minute faster on the climb.

Apparently he said be fore the race he's gonna conserve energy. So that's what that looks like.

 

[onefortheroad]

Pogacar already started "trolling" due to boredom in stage races last year and will only increase it in the future, especially if he knows no one is even somewhat close, like here. Yesterday pulling the whole climb and by far the most after, then destroying the sprint with basically no fatigue, today visibly refusing to attack and then being the first responder to about 14 attacks, before again destroying the sprint with basically no fatigue.

There is no doubt that if yesterday was the last stage and he was somehow behind, he would've gone 1+ minute faster on the climb.

Agree. How many stages will he win in the Tour? How many will he want to win right down to the sprint? How many will he leave for anyone else?
Is he going to keep humiliating Vinge, letting him die in his own attacks just to eat him alive in every sprint?
Will he leave even a crumb? Will he even let Vinge gain a single inch on him?
His absurd dominance has swallowed his boredom, but it definitely hasn't swallowed his greed.

 

[No Excuses]

He should focus on the green jersey, since top 10 at the tour will be impossible.
He can become the new Cavendish

 

[Unchained]

Sort of hard to believe that Bora kept leading Pogacar out as if they were a secondary train for UAE, allowing him to completely sit in the cat's seat for kilometers! And the jumping! Wtf! Bora tries to go off the front and @5 seconds is a sustained attack? Movistar considered getting out of the saddle for 3-5 seconds was going to drop or gap, World Champion? Really and even with some pretty modest grades on final climbs, and he was attacked and countered.. Pogacar wins the field sprint! Really? That was embarrassing.

View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kTOChNF4kpg&pp=ygUYcG9nYWNhciB0b3VyIGRlIHJvbWFuZGll


At around 2:15 is when the real pillow fighting starts.. Pogacar being served a bunch of marshmallows until the finish..

 

[AmRacer]

He should focus on the green jersey, since top 10 at the tour will be impossible.
He can become the new Cavendish

The green jersey is Remco's.

 

[vappa]

I didn't see it when he barely won a sprint vs Pidcock in MSR and didn't exist vs Van Aert in PR.

P-R I agree, that wasn't a good sprint but in MSR, if we take just Pidcock and Pogacar, without MvdP, he probably pulled close to 90% of the time from the moment he attacked to the finish. And since Pidcock isn't slow at all, didn't crash and had perfectly working bike, yeah, it was close

 

[vappa]

Apparently he said be fore the race he's gonna conserve energy. So that's what that looks like.

It's pretty smart, he got 2 stage wins with as little amount of energy spend as possible

 

[Wyndbrook]

Sometimes it's better to leave a few titbits for your fellow competitors.

 

[SHAD0W93]

Sometimes it's better to leave a few titbits for your fellow competitors.

The KoM and Youth competition is up for grabs.

 

[canina82]

Apparently he said be fore the race he's gonna conserve energy. So that's what that looks like.

Conserve energy for what?

 

[hayneplane]

3 stages back on the menu. His win rate in this schedule is mindblowing.

10 wins from his last 12 race days including Worlds, Europeans and 4 monuments.

 

[canina82]

Agree. How many stages will he win in the Tour? How many will he want to win right down to the sprint? How many will he leave for anyone else?
Is he going to keep humiliating Vinge, letting him die in his own attacks just to eat him alive in every sprint?
Will he leave even a crumb? Will he even let Vinge gain a single inch on him?
His absurd dominance has swallowed his boredom, but it definitely hasn't swallowed his greed.

Is not his fault, he is so much better than his rivals.

 

[canina82]

10 wins from his last 12 race days including Worlds, Europeans and 4 monuments.

Quality of wins is highly impressive. It's not like Remco who was targetting mickey mouse races to increase his confidence.

 

[Rechtschreibfehler]

Conserve energy for what?

Well good question, probably not to overdo it after the classics campaign, or because he want's to do something on Saturday.

 

[Divergence]

I do not really understand all this uproar about winning, which is him doing his job. The truth is you never know when your last one is and he should be winning everything he can at the moment. The flip side is, the other teams should then do all they can to not let him win. i.e., never ride with him and never close gaps for him. That means they should be OK with somebody else beating them and not riding like Lenny or the yellow guy yesterday.