Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[GdL]

Cavendish went like 3-4 years basically getting beaten like once when launching the sprint in a good position in the TdF?

Cipollini is basically an aurafarming merchant and nothing more.

Look I don't think Cipollini wasn't even a great cyclist. He was heavily specialized, but as a sprinter he was unparalleled. Cavendish was also pumped. I'm quite convinced that his last TdF stage win was blatantly staged so that he could beat Merckx record.
I personally don't like pure sprinters at all. So I won't fight to convince you otherwise

 

[canina82]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2050165497220542618

View: https://x.com/laflammerouge16/status/2050165497220542618?s=46

If true, it’s not Pogacar who is the cannibal it’s Uae who are trying to win 15 tdf in a row

I still don't believe it. But if it's true, we won't see Seixas vs Pogacar in the future.

 

[Tanakka]

He was so superior to everyone else (Cipo) that once he was launched, not matter who was his wheel, his team mates would start celebrating, knowing there was no chance for his rivals to surpass him

Yeah, with the avail of a proper 'train', Cipo is probably Goat.
But, without one, Cavendish is superior.

Cipollini is basically an aurafarming merchant and nothing more.

Let's not get carried away.

 

[vappa]

I still don't believe it. But if it's true, we won't see Seixas vs Pogacar in the future.

I especially don't believe it now that Beppe Conti said it

 

[yaf2]

I still don't believe it. But if it's true, we won't see Seixas vs Pogacar in the future.

The idea of uae is after pog wins his record breaking 6 tdf next year he will focus on other goals till his contract expires in 2030 which makes seixas the perfect replacement by then

 

[canina82]

The idea of uae is after pog wins his record breaking 6 tdf next year he will focus on other goals till his contract expires in 2030 which makes seixas the perfect replacement by then

I'm not sure Seixas will be weaker than Pogacar next year.

 

[Red Rick]

Yeah, with the avail of a proper 'train', Cipo is probably Goat.
But, without one, Cavendish is superior.

Let's not get carried away.

You're right. He's not only an aura farmer.

He's also a wife beater

 

[Lorzenz08]

I'm not sure Seixas will be weaker than Pogacar next year.

Seixas will never reach the level of peak Pogi. The only time he will beat him will be when Pogi decides he is done.

 

[canina82]

Seixas will never reach the level of peak Pogi. The only time he will beat him will be when Pogi decides he is done.

You are too confident... Seixas is probably on Vingegaard's level already.

 

[GdL]

Seixas will never reach the level of peak Pogi. The only time he will beat him will be when Pogi decides he is done.

Too early to say.

But if Seixas is really joining UAE in 2028, then probably Pogacar already must have announced internally he would be leaving in 2028. They couldn't coexist for more than a year in the same team.

 

[yaf2]

Seixas will never reach the level of peak Pogi. The only time he will beat him will be when Pogi decides he is done.

⬆️ 20 watts/month🤣

 

[BubbaChuck]

very smart calendar this year.fresh as daisy after classics starts doing climbing blocks.

 

[SHAD0W93]

Look I don't think Cipollini wasn't even a great cyclist. He was heavily specialized, but as a sprinter he was unparalleled. Cavendish was also pumped. I'm quite convinced that his last TdF stage win was blatantly staged so that he could beat Merckx record.

Yeah, the script writers were popping off having Cavendish ride through the whole peloton in order to win.

 

[Unchained]

If I was Pogacar I would seriously reconsider his schedule next year, this race doesn't have anything significantly challenging and he has been involved in field sprints for multiple days. He needs races with some terrain that reliably produces a selection and not races were dozens of riders are able to easily finish and contest sketchy bunch sprints..

 

[SHAD0W93]

If I was Pogacar I would seriously reconsider his schedule next year, this race doesn't have anything significantly challenging and he has been involved in field sprints for multiple days. He needs races with some terrain that reliably produces a selection and not races were dozens of riders are able to easily finish and contest sketchy bunch sprints..

Pogacar is only racing this to check it off his WT list. Doubt he’ll ever show up here or TdS again.

 

[Unchained]

Pogacar is only racing this to check it off his WT list. Doubt he’ll ever show up here or TdS again.

If he falls and gets hurt maybe someone will ride up and say"_Did you get being a field sprinter, out of your system, off your bucket list? Your injuries will only take#### months or weeks, you can do the TDF next year after you recover " I still find it crazy to do risky racing for nothing other than marking it off his list. Win or lose Romandie isn't important in the grand scheme of things imo

 

[SHAD0W93]

If he falls and gets hurt maybe someone will ride up and say"_Did you get being a field sprinter, out of your system, off your bucket list? Your injuries will only take#### months or weeks, you can do the TDF next year after you recover " I still find it crazy to do risky racing for nothing other than marking it off his list. Win or lose Romandie isn't important in the grand scheme of things imo

Being the first to do something is though. Just like it isn’t important to get 10 stage wins in each GT but it hasn’t been done yet.

 

[the asian]

I still don't believe it. But if it's true, we won't see Seixas vs Pogacar in the future.

If Conti says so, the opposite will happen

 

[Divergence]

I don't think anyone said that. Pogacar needs 1 TdF and 1 Vuelta to be the undisputed second best rider ever. Mark is just the best sprinter ever.

Sure, and Jordan is the best basketball player ever. So what.? Also Tadej is already the best ever.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Too early to say.

But if Seixas is really joining UAE in 2028, then probably Pogacar already must have announced internally he would be leaving in 2028. They couldn't coexist for more than a year in the same team.

Pogacar may stop doing the Tour at some point and focus on other races (doing his own schedule). In this case coexistance of Pog and Seixas is possible and they will clash only in Lombardy and Liege.

 

[Coppi-Bartali]

If he falls and gets hurt maybe someone will ride up and say"_Did you get being a field sprinter, out of your system, off your bucket list? Your injuries will only take#### months or weeks, you can do the TDF next year after you recover " I still find it crazy to do risky racing for nothing other than marking it off his list. Win or lose Romandie isn't important in the grand scheme of things imo

That can happen in any race or training session. If it were just about the risk of crashes, he wouldn't go to Flanders and Roubaix.

He hasn't done any stage races, and the Tour is in two months, which is why he's doing the Tour de Romandie. He can't go to the Tour without races like this and TDS.

 

[nightowl]

If I was Pogacar I would seriously reconsider his schedule next year, this race doesn't have anything significantly challenging and he has been involved in field sprints for multiple days. He needs races with some terrain that reliably produces a selection and not races were dozens of riders are able to easily finish and contest sketchy bunch sprints..

Pogacar could have easily made a selection today and yesterday, he clearly is choosing not to for whatever reason.

 

[vappa]

Pogacar may stop doing the Tour at some point and focus on other races (doing his own schedule). In this case coexistance of Pog and Seixas is possible and they will clash only in Lombardy and Liege.

He clearly can do both, one day races and the Tour. Besides, if he chooses not to race the Tour, what would he race then? Combining classics and Giro is much harder, and taking a break from LBL to Vuelta is unrealistic also

 

[GdL]

Pogacar may stop doing the Tour at some point and focus on other races (doing his own schedule). In this case coexistance of Pog and Seixas is possible and they will clash only in Lombardy and Liege.

Your theory about Pogacar pivoting to his own "Greatest Hits" schedule makes sense on paper, but I struggle to see that rational split actually happening in the real world. Here is why:

1- The TdF Gravity Well: Tadej Pogacar is the undisputed North Star of cycling right now. For a team like UAE, the Tour de France is the only race that truly moves the needle for sponsors on a global scale.

2- The Power Shift: The moment another rider (Seixas) brings the Yellow Jersey home, the internal hierarchy of the team shifts. The winner of the Tour inherently becomes the most valuable asset.

3- Support Follows Success: If Pogacar steps away from the Tour to let Seixas lead, he risks losing his "Alpha" status. In pro cycling, the best domestiques, the biggest budgets, and the total tactical commitment follow the man who wins the Tour.

Even if they only "clash" at Lombardia or Liège, the power struggle happens in the service course and the boardroom months before. Pogacar knows that to keep the team entirely in his corner, he has to remain the king of the biggest race. I don’t think he’s ready to hand over those keys and the support that comes with them just yet.

 

[Salvarani]

A lot of assumptions.