Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[Rasto]

Good news. He looked pretty laboured in the end.

lot of people saying he riding withim himself i dont belive that he needed to go to red to drop lipowitz today and then he was loosing little by little on a straight

 

[BubbaChuck]

doing this in deficit,lmaoo.we are losing weight in this race.nothing more.

 

[Rasto]

or maybe tadej realized he cant be on top from roubaix and then he went little down with shape and slow build up to tour

 

[yaco]

This race is one big proof how a weaker team can limit you.
UAE are so weak here that they can't prepare a proper attack for Pogacar.

All you post is about Pogacar having a weak team, yet he continues to win. Their team is fine.

 

[YavorD]

These huge talents rise like this. Pogacar was nowhere close to Roglic in the Dauphiné and 4-5 weeks later, PdB happened.

Indeed, Pogacar was probably resting in Slovenia after the Giro, hence not close to Roglic indeed.


In case you actually mean PDBF rather than PdB, you're also on the wrong. Pogacar did finish Dauphine, Roglic crashed out (which probably affected his Tour).

 

[canina82]

Indeed, Pogacar was probably resting in Slovenia after the Giro, hence not close to Roglic indeed.


In case you actually mean PDBF rather than PdB, you're also on the wrong. Pogacar did finish Dauphine, Roglic crashed out (which probably affected his Tour).

Forgot a F mate. PDBF.
Roglic was much stronger than Pogacar in the Dauphiné.

 

[YavorD]

Forgot a F mate. PDBF.
Roglic was much stronger than Pogacar in the Dauphiné.

Roglic crashed out. If I remember correctly, his participation in the Tour was under question.
Roglic indeed was stronger through the stages, but it's fair to say Pogacar came out of Dauphine stronger.

 

[Salvarani]

All you post is about Pogacar having a weak team, yet he continues to win. Their team is fine.

They were great today and Sivakov clearly rested yesterday to do work today and probably tomorrow.

Grosschartner really good here as well.

 

[canina82]

Roglic crashed out. If I remember correctly, his participation in the Tour was under question.
Roglic indeed was stronger through the stages, but it's fair to say Pogacar came out of Dauphine stronger.

It wasn't. He decided to leave the Dauphiné in order to recover better before the Tour.

 

[Salvarani]

6.71 w/kg for 21:35 minutes, performance index level at 88, better than his stage 1. This is on a similar level as seixas stage 2 in basque and vingegaard stage 5 in catalunya and he was still quite in control. This guy has started training on long climbs 10 days ago (after roubaix) and he is already at a very good level, exactly at the level he should be at this point of the season

He is doing great and coming here for some harder training, after finishing the classics. Putting in quite dominating performances, while not being super-prepared. He is just a level above everyone.

Some be dramatic about things. It is better to just chill and stop getting ahead of themselves, but they always do. Whether it is about tactics, teammates, his performance or other things.

 

[Coppi-Bartali]

2020 season cannot be used as a reference . Pandemic year, and they were without competition for a long time, followed by a calendar that was altered from what had been planned in the preseason.
This situation affects a young rider (young back then) more than a veteran cyclist.

Furthermore, Seixas is much more mature as a cyclist; his progress from now on may be slower compared to previous races like the Itzulia or the Dauphiné.

But that pandemic season cannot be used as a reference.

 

[Peyresourde]

Forgot a F mate. PDBF.
Roglic was much stronger than Pogacar in the Dauphiné.

The last stage of the Dauphine (without Roglic) could almost be called the beginning of the current era. The pace on the climbs that day was insane and Pogacar basically was the strongest rider. I may even do a separate post about this stage at some point.

 

[canina82]

The last stage of the Dauphine (without Roglic) could almost be called the beginning of the current era. The pace on the climbs that day was insane and Pogacar basically was the strongest rider. I may even do a separate post about this stage at some point.

But he was very underwhelming (compared to the level he showed in the Tour) on Porte.

 

[GdL]

Somehow I'm convinced Pogacar intends to do the Vuelta this year.
It would explain why he skipped a race like the AGR and other prestigious one day race during the spring.
When he completes the TdF he'll have 37 racing days.
Then what? Add only a few more one day races?
The Vuelta ends 2 weeks before the WCRR.

It's not ideal but we have seen Vuelta riders doing well during the WCRR, so it's not like it would prevent him from winning.
If he wins TdF , Vuelta , WCRR, and GDL it would become by far the best season ever in cycling with no question about it
And with the European Championship he could still finish the season with 60 racing days.
On the high end by his standard but not unthinkable.

 

[Peyresourde]

But he was very underwhelming (compared to the level he showed in the Tour) on Porte.

It was hot. He/the team did not know how to manage that properly back in 2020. If the Tour that year had been in July he would absolutely not have won it.

 

[BubbaChuck]

Ive got a little carried away in the gym. 70 kilo Hulk is coming in 2-3 years.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3hfLZwiUY8

 

[Salvarani]

Somehow I'm convinced Pogacar intends to do the Vuelta this year.
It would explain why he skipped a race like the AGR and other prestigious one day race during the spring.
When he completes the TdF he'll have 37 racing days.
Then what? Add only a few more one day races?
The Vuelta ends 2 weeks before the WCRR.

It's not ideal but we have seen Vuelta riders doing well during the WCRR, so it's not like it would prevent him from winning.
If he wins TdF , Vuelta , WCRR, and GDL it would become by far the best season ever in cycling with no question about it
And with the European Championship he could still finish the season with 60 racing days.
On the high end by his standard but not unthinkable.

It not about the race days though...

He has spent a lot time outside of racing to train and prep for the monuments.

Last year he ended things at 50 days.

So if he ends this year and 44-45 is not a big deal really. After doing all the monuments, Tour + worlds. Plus a few other races.

He will most likely need/want a break after Tour, after going from Feb to end of Tour.

Recharge for the GPs, Worlds and Italian fall.

 

[canina82]

Ive got a little carried away in the gym. 70 kilo Hulk is coming in 2-3 years.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3hfLZwiUY8

Lose 2 kg + more training in the high mountains = alien mode

 

[AmRacer]

dont come with this *** seisax did altitude and he is climbing from the winter

That's why he's better right now, but not in July.

 

[GdL]

It not about the race days though...

He has spent a lot time outside of racing to train and prep for the monuments.

Last year he ended things at 50 days.

So if he ends this year and 44-45 is not a big deal really. After doing all the monuments, Tour + worlds. Plus a few other races.

He will most likely need/want a break after Tour, after going from Feb to end of Tour.

Recharge for the GPs, Worlds and Italian fall.

But he could probably win the Vuelta in preparation for the WCRR mode.
Vingegaard won't be there for sure, and it is unthinkable that Seixas may do 2 GT in one season at his age.
Evanepoel and Lipowitz are not supposed to do the Vuelta either

Who else may be there to challenge him?

 

[canina82]

But he could probably win the Vuelta with very little effort and preparation.
Vingegaard won't be there for sure, and it is unthinkable that Seixas may do 2 GT in one season at his age.

Who else may be there to challenge him?

It still a 3 weeks stage race. 2027 is much more suited for a Tour-Vuelta.

 

[BubbaChuck]

People have to understand 1 thing,Pog is only thinking how to get back at VVA for that sprint.

 

[AmRacer]

People have to understand 1 thing,Pog is only thinking how to get back at VVA for that sprint.

The one in Paris last year or then one in Paris-R this year

 

[GdL]

People have to understand 1 thing,Pog is only thinking how to get back at VVA for that sprint.

If that's the case he'd better off if he accept the fact that he may never get his revenge

 

[Coppi-Bartali]

Somehow I'm convinced Pogacar intends to do the Vuelta this year.
It would explain why he skipped a race like the AGR and other prestigious one day race during the spring.
When he completes the TdF he'll have 37 racing days.
Then what? Add only a few more one day races?
The Vuelta ends 2 weeks before the WCRR.

It's not ideal but we have seen Vuelta riders doing well during the WCRR, so it's not like it would prevent him from winning.
If he wins TdF , Vuelta , WCRR, and GDL it would become by far the best season ever in cycling with no question about it
And with the European Championship he could still finish the season with 60 racing days.
On the high end by his standard but not unthinkable.

He hasn´t made Amstel because he was coocked there last year, and this year he's doing the Tour de Romandie. Las year hi did more days of competition because he did UAE Tour out of obligation. Otherwise, there wouldn't be that much difference.

He does the Canadian Classics every year, so it doesn't make sense not to do them the year of the World Championships in Canada. Besides, this year the Vuelta route is harder than in previous years.