Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[vappa]

For those who don't speak Italian (like myself), one guy in the comments wrote all the questions in English

 

[AmRacer]

@GdL

Eventually likely all records will be surpassed. Note that with 6 Rogla was already the record holder and first one in history achieving that. If some rider(s) surpasses him in the future, fine, records are meant to be broken. Plus who says that will happen any time soon or that Rogla won't go beyond the current record himself.

But Rogla is missing two races. Jonas will complete the set next year.

 

[CyclistAbi]

@AmRacer

Your table, sorted or not, indeed indicates that others are still somewhat lacking. Maybe someday.

 

[AmRacer]

@AmRacer

Your table, sorted or not, indeed indicates that others are still somewhat lacking. Maybe someday.

Who is lacking in my sorted table? Seixas?

 

[CyclistAbi]

@AmRacer

There is nothing wrong with dreams, someday all mentioned riders can beat Rogla in the table you operate. It's just not today.

Dream big.

 

[AmRacer]

@AmRacer

There is nothing wrong with dreams, someday all mentioned riders can beat Rogla in the table you operate. It's just not today.

Dream big.

Not all of them. Jonas and Pogi are ahead due to their TdF wins, and Jonas will soon be number one when he wins the Giro.

 

[CyclistAbi]

@AmRacer

Your table clearly indicates on who is the best, regardless of the sorting. Anybody can look for themself so no need to argue about it.

 

[BahamontesPhantom]

For those who don't speak Italian (like myself), one guy in the comments wrote all the questions in English

He shoud ask him
Are you better than Nibali
Are you better than Gimondi
Are you better than Coppi

 

[AmRacer]

@AmRacer

Your table clearly indicates on who is the best, regardless of the sorting. Anybody can look for themself so no need to argue about it.

It's sorted, but I won't change place between Pogi and Jonas after he wins the Giro. So it won't stay sorted so much longer.

 

[CyclistAbi]

@AmRacer

No, it's not sorted from best to last, still, anybody can check for themself, so lets leave it at that.

 

[AmRacer]

@AmRacer

No, it's not sorted from best to last, still, anybody can check for themself, so lets leave it at that.

It's sorted.

 

[YavorD]

@AmRacer

No, it's not sorted from best to last, still, anybody can check for themself, so lets leave it at that.

You are right, based on the showing this season Roglic should be closer to the last..


But he is saved by Almeida and Ayuso being injured. But since you give them the benefit of the doubt, Rogla really has to be closer the the right end of the table.

 

[CyclistAbi]

@YavorD

It doesn't work like that, the table clearly shows on who the current title holder is and on who are the challengers. Sorting hence should accommodate for that, like it's done in any other such topic.

But i get it, sorting is biased and the table operator admits that and doesn't want to correct it. Fine, the table still is useful as such. It clearly shows on who is ahead and who is chasing.

 

[canina82]

I think Vingegaard is the rider closer to get all 3 GTs and all major one week stage races. He can win TdR and TdS next year.

 

[canina82]

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With all "future guaranteed wins" discussed here I always turn to Pogi's own words: you never know how long this will last. I need to win every race now while I still can. That's why many fancy forum titles turned sour with time and others surprised. Palmares is something we look back upon, not stare at as something to be. Seixas might turn out as the GOAT or as "the next Remco Evenepoel". What Pogi has done in past five or six years is something special, something magical. We should be more respectful of that. There is no value in planning for "2 more tdf, 6 more monuments and 2 more WC". In times of need, I just go rewatch 2024 WC or 2020 TDF. Or go and read the very first page of this forum thread. Or go into my own memory of the last three 2024 TDF stages which I've seen live. 2026 TDF will be something new; something we've never seen before and I am sure it will be amazing to watch. Whether Pogi wins it or not. Let's breathe.

Great comment. I don't really enjoy races anymore where he is clear favourite because everybody is taking it for granted and easy. I was already over moon with MSR victory and that would be enough for me for whole spring season. What is for me most impresive thing about Pogacar is him never getting sick or injured when really matters. I really enjoyed Romandie but seeing people questioning his form after winning 4 stages (!), two days (!)after hard winning LBL (!) in his classics body (!) made me realise even a lot of his fans are becoming to greedy.

 

[canina82]

Great comment. I don't really enjoy races anymore where he is clear favourite because everybody is taking it for granted and easy. I was already over moon with MSR victory and that would be enough for me for whole spring season. What is for me most impresive thing about Pogacar is him never getting sick or injured when really matters. I really enjoyed Romandie but seeing people questioning his form after winning 4 stages (!), two days (!)after hard winning LBL (!) in his classics body (!) made me realise even a lot of his fans are becoming to greedy.

Had the same feeling about MSR. I said to myself "Mission accomplished" when he won there and for me his spring was already a success. I believe if we asked Pogacar which race was his biggest win this season, He would say MSR instantly.